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I like the one with the cars outline as well.....just wish it was the more "swoopy" lines of the 4th gen....and maybe a little "splash" of color......I don't know red, white and blue, or maybe GM blue and white....
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I like the 3rd gen one I think it's important that the shape be distinctively f-body. We could offer them with or without a car outline. If someone could post a good side pic of a 4th gen I'm sure i960 could do that.
I'll work on it some more tonight. I have a couple side shots of my car too. 
Drivers side
Passenger side
Drivers side
Passenger side
Guys given the choice of sign shops, would you support "just another sign shop" or a fellow F-body enthusiast.
I don't know why I didn't think of it before, but Brent Frankner is making vinyl decals.
Someone should check with him to see if he's interested.
I don't think he charges and arm and a leg. That way we can still send profits to Chris for the board, but not cost us a boatload at the same time.
Also, I like the plain old FRRAX.com or www.FRRAX.com.
I don't know why I didn't think of it before, but Brent Frankner is making vinyl decals.
Someone should check with him to see if he's interested.
I don't think he charges and arm and a leg. That way we can still send profits to Chris for the board, but not cost us a boatload at the same time.
Also, I like the plain old FRRAX.com or www.FRRAX.com.
That's a good idea Lonnie. I've gotten some decals from him before. Brent does good work and is reasonably priced.
QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Feb 10 2004, 05:22 PM)
Also, I like the plain old FRRAX.com or www.FRRAX.com.
Lonnie if you only want frrax.com I'm sure that will be made seperately. If not these decals are usually done in sections so you could just not apply the outline part.
I emailed Brent about the decals-awaiting reply. I also asked if he can make static clings. Either way I think he'd be a great choice for decals.
Here's one I threw together (kinda rough), with a 98 up Camaro outline:
Red, white, and blue:
Im for GaryK's, but what size and how they gonna stick?
I also like Gary's, but I'd recommend a white background for one version of the sticker and a black background for the other one with a white outline of the car. That way they'd work with whatever color combo a car owner has.
I still vote for static cling versions in a small size and normal stickers in a 3x6 or so size. I guess we'd have to take a poll to make sure we had enough interested people in various designs before a decision was made on the final package.
I still vote for static cling versions in a small size and normal stickers in a 3x6 or so size. I guess we'd have to take a poll to make sure we had enough interested people in various designs before a decision was made on the final package.
I also like Gary's red, white, and blue 4th gen. I would put one of the white outlined ones on each side of my trailer, and maybe th black one on the back window of the car?
I like Gary's too, and the front wheel arch is a nice touch. However, the LS1 Camaro's nose profile is, ahem, not it's "best side" (I have one, and I've warmed up to it, but...). Some faint suggestion of the LT1 Camaro, LS1/LT1 Firebirds, or 3rd gen IROC fascia would help it, I think.
In other words, it's a bit too bullet-nosed. It needs a little more air dam character, like a smoothed, stylized version of i960's airdam.
In other words, it's a bit too bullet-nosed. It needs a little more air dam character, like a smoothed, stylized version of i960's airdam.
Way to go Gary!
I like the last one...red, white, and blue with the BLACK outline!
I don't mind the LS1 nose on the sticker.....and I HATE em in real life!
I like the last one...red, white, and blue with the BLACK outline!
I don't mind the LS1 nose on the sticker.....and I HATE em in real life!
I can clean up the outline some to make it look better, and try changing the nose a bit as well just to see how it looks.
The concept for these designs is that the background color is not really part of the sticker. If these are done with layered vinyl, then you would just have the outline of the car and the lettering on the surface after applying. For example, on the one with the grey background, the color you see in place of the grey would be the color of the paint (since there really isn't anything there as far as the sticker is concerned). Another option is printing them onto adhesive vinyl or the static cling material, in which case the background could be a color or be clear.
One other thing, if these are done with layered vinyl the overall size can't be too small because the smaller letters will start getting small enough to be a pain to deal with. I can tweak the design some to help with this, so I'll look into this also.
The concept for these designs is that the background color is not really part of the sticker. If these are done with layered vinyl, then you would just have the outline of the car and the lettering on the surface after applying. For example, on the one with the grey background, the color you see in place of the grey would be the color of the paint (since there really isn't anything there as far as the sticker is concerned). Another option is printing them onto adhesive vinyl or the static cling material, in which case the background could be a color or be clear.
One other thing, if these are done with layered vinyl the overall size can't be too small because the smaller letters will start getting small enough to be a pain to deal with. I can tweak the design some to help with this, so I'll look into this also.
Ok, I made a few adjustments and changed the nose to the LT1 style. It looks better this way IMO...
I think we got a keeper....
QUOTE (GaryK @ Feb 10 2004, 10:54 PM)
The concept for these designs is that the background color is not really part of the sticker. If these are done with layered vinyl, then you would just have the outline of the car and the lettering on the surface after applying.
I'd like that feature in a Sticker. My vote is for the car sillouette without the www.
Here's Brent's reply... He doesn't do static cling but I or somebody could get someone else to.
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Hey Rob!
I'm sure we can work something out! I've done similar for businesses and
websites before.
What I have found is the most popular type of decal like this is something
small. Small is good for two reasons... 1) With a smaller and less
"obnoxious" decal, people are more likely to place them on their car and 2)
smaller decals are cheaper for the business!
I would suggest sticking with just www.FRRAX.com at probably around 8" or
less. I'd have to do some test sizing to see what would look best. Decals
like this people can place on their a pillar or at the lower portion of
their rear window and it doesn't "overpower" the car and instead just shows
support for what is on the decal.
If this sounds like something you might be interested, email me the font you
used and I'll come up with a good size for you and give you a price.
I don't do static clings
All I have is a vinyl cutter and static cling
type decals are made using an inkjet type method.
Thanks!
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Brent Franker - Inverness, FL
94 Vortech Z28 * 96 Z28 SS #1655
http://www.bfranker.badz28.com
4th Gen Appearance Modification Guide
http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/appearance
I'm sure we can work something out! I've done similar for businesses and
websites before.
What I have found is the most popular type of decal like this is something
small. Small is good for two reasons... 1) With a smaller and less
"obnoxious" decal, people are more likely to place them on their car and 2)
smaller decals are cheaper for the business!
I would suggest sticking with just www.FRRAX.com at probably around 8" or
less. I'd have to do some test sizing to see what would look best. Decals
like this people can place on their a pillar or at the lower portion of
their rear window and it doesn't "overpower" the car and instead just shows
support for what is on the decal.
If this sounds like something you might be interested, email me the font you
used and I'll come up with a good size for you and give you a price.
I don't do static clings
All I have is a vinyl cutter and static clingtype decals are made using an inkjet type method.
Thanks!
---------------------------------------------
Brent Franker - Inverness, FL
94 Vortech Z28 * 96 Z28 SS #1655
http://www.bfranker.badz28.com
4th Gen Appearance Modification Guide
http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/appearance
Perfect! The nose job and tweaking really helped. I think it looks more balanced with the www under the hood IMO. Spelling out "roadrace and autocross" looks better too.
The black outline version would look good either either as a two layer or on a white background as shown. As a two layer, it would also work well when applied on white magnetic sheets.
A white outline version would work well as a clinger on clear or as a two-layer. Black wouldn't show up against the interior (or on dark cars).
Rob, can Brent work with a graphic design like we've come up with? If not, I'd still vote for keeping the graphics and finding a shop that can do it.
The black outline version would look good either either as a two layer or on a white background as shown. As a two layer, it would also work well when applied on white magnetic sheets.
A white outline version would work well as a clinger on clear or as a two-layer. Black wouldn't show up against the interior (or on dark cars).
Rob, can Brent work with a graphic design like we've come up with? If not, I'd still vote for keeping the graphics and finding a shop that can do it.
I'm sure he can he was just offering his input. I'll email him back.
I would like to also have a smaller decal, but I like Gary's for the banner 3x6" decal.
I would like to also have a smaller decal, but I like Gary's for the banner 3x6" decal.
Here's Brent's reply...
Gary, if you could please email Brent what he needs and you can work it out.
bfranker@tampabay.rr.com
I'm going to start a seperate thread to see how many people want this decal.
EDIT:
Here's the other thread...
http://mtfba.org/rrforum/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=391
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I could do that decal assuming it is in small numbers It looks like you
are wanting an outline in black with the red and blue numbers. I can do
stuff like that but it is very time consuming because rather than just cut
vinyl, I have to put it together too! But, it sounds like you don't want
a bunch of these so that'll work. Just to give you an idea of how big of a
pain in the arse multicolored layered vinyl is, I charge $15 for a 1"x1"
30th ann white faced gauge decal. This won't be that much if you order a
handful of them but just giving you an idea how multi colored stuff is WAY
more time consuming! That image does look good though and would come out
nice with vinyl! I can also call some vinyl suppliers and ask them about
static cling and if regular vinyl can be placed on top of cling vinyl and
get the same effect.
Can you ask who ever made that image if they have a vector image of the car
outline? If not, can you see if they can save that at like 1000 dpi and
fairly large? If I can't get the vector image of the car then I'm going to
have to use a trace program to change the gif/jpg into a vector image and
the larger/clearer image I have the better it comes out!
Let me know how many of these were wanting and we'll go from there!
It looks like youare wanting an outline in black with the red and blue numbers. I can do
stuff like that but it is very time consuming because rather than just cut
vinyl, I have to put it together too!
But, it sounds like you don't wanta bunch of these so that'll work. Just to give you an idea of how big of a
pain in the arse multicolored layered vinyl is, I charge $15 for a 1"x1"
30th ann white faced gauge decal.
This won't be that much if you order ahandful of them but just giving you an idea how multi colored stuff is WAY
more time consuming! That image does look good though and would come out
nice with vinyl! I can also call some vinyl suppliers and ask them about
static cling and if regular vinyl can be placed on top of cling vinyl and
get the same effect.
Can you ask who ever made that image if they have a vector image of the car
outline? If not, can you see if they can save that at like 1000 dpi and
fairly large? If I can't get the vector image of the car then I'm going to
have to use a trace program to change the gif/jpg into a vector image and
the larger/clearer image I have the better it comes out!
Let me know how many of these were wanting and we'll go from there!
Gary, if you could please email Brent what he needs and you can work it out.
bfranker@tampabay.rr.com
I'm going to start a seperate thread to see how many people want this decal.
EDIT:
Here's the other thread...
http://mtfba.org/rrforum/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=391
QUOTE (robz71lm7 @ Feb 11 2004, 11:37 AM)
Here's Brent's reply...
I could do that decal assuming it is in small numbers It looks like you
are wanting an outline in black with the red and blue numbers. I can do
stuff like that but it is very time consuming because rather than just cut
vinyl, I have to put it together too! But, it sounds like you don't want
a bunch of these so that'll work. Just to give you an idea of how big of a
pain in the arse multicolored layered vinyl is, I charge $15 for a 1"x1"
30th ann white faced gauge decal. This won't be that much if you order a
handful of them but just giving you an idea how multi colored stuff is WAY
more time consuming! That image does look good though and would come out
nice with vinyl! I can also call some vinyl suppliers and ask them about
static cling and if regular vinyl can be placed on top of cling vinyl and
get the same effect.
Can you ask who ever made that image if they have a vector image of the car
outline? If not, can you see if they can save that at like 1000 dpi and
fairly large? If I can't get the vector image of the car then I'm going to
have to use a trace program to change the gif/jpg into a vector image and
the larger/clearer image I have the better it comes out!
Let me know how many of these were wanting and we'll go from there!
Gary, if you could please email Brent what he needs and you can work it out.
bfranker@tampabay.rr.com
I'm going to start a seperate thread to see how many people want this decal.
EDIT:
Here's the other thread...
http://mtfba.org/rrforum/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=391
QUOTE
I could do that decal assuming it is in small numbers
It looks like youare wanting an outline in black with the red and blue numbers. I can do
stuff like that but it is very time consuming because rather than just cut
vinyl, I have to put it together too!
But, it sounds like you don't wanta bunch of these so that'll work. Just to give you an idea of how big of a
pain in the arse multicolored layered vinyl is, I charge $15 for a 1"x1"
30th ann white faced gauge decal.
This won't be that much if you order ahandful of them but just giving you an idea how multi colored stuff is WAY
more time consuming! That image does look good though and would come out
nice with vinyl! I can also call some vinyl suppliers and ask them about
static cling and if regular vinyl can be placed on top of cling vinyl and
get the same effect.
Can you ask who ever made that image if they have a vector image of the car
outline? If not, can you see if they can save that at like 1000 dpi and
fairly large? If I can't get the vector image of the car then I'm going to
have to use a trace program to change the gif/jpg into a vector image and
the larger/clearer image I have the better it comes out!
Let me know how many of these were wanting and we'll go from there!
Gary, if you could please email Brent what he needs and you can work it out.
bfranker@tampabay.rr.com
I'm going to start a seperate thread to see how many people want this decal.
EDIT:
Here's the other thread...
http://mtfba.org/rrforum/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=391
I agree with Brent, doing this in a multi color design will be much more time consuming. With three colors, its really three times as much work (actually a little more because of the "assembly"). Regardless, I will try to vectorize the design myself asap and send it to Brent. I'll also create a version that is to be a single color, in case we need to go that route for cost reasons. I think it would look pretty good in just one color too. Also, since there is some interest in the 3rd gen outline, I'll try to put that together as well in case there's enough interest for Brent to do some of those as well.
Is the font ok with everybody? I have tons of different fonts, I was just throwing something out there and didn't expect that we'd decide on a design so quickly.
I love this final version of the graphic.
But, it appears that the height to width ratio of the proposed graphic is 1:4. If that is true, then a 7” wide sticker would only need to be 1.75” tall. The proposed height is 3”. Do you need all of that blank space above and below the graphic? I have never put any kind of sticker on my car, and I would rather it be as short as possible. Six or seven inches wide seems reasonable.
Well, I did put a “Taft for President” sticker on my 1908 Oldsmobile, but I had a hard time removing it (they didn’t have bumpers back then) and decided that I would not do it again.
But, it appears that the height to width ratio of the proposed graphic is 1:4. If that is true, then a 7” wide sticker would only need to be 1.75” tall. The proposed height is 3”. Do you need all of that blank space above and below the graphic? I have never put any kind of sticker on my car, and I would rather it be as short as possible. Six or seven inches wide seems reasonable.
Well, I did put a “Taft for President” sticker on my 1908 Oldsmobile, but I had a hard time removing it (they didn’t have bumpers back then) and decided that I would not do it again.
Last version of the decal looks GREAT !! How much $$$ and who do I need to send it to?? 3X6" works perfect, will look good next to my Nurenburg Ring decal !! GREAT JOB GUYS!!
!! How much $$$ and who do I need to send it to?? 3X6" works perfect, will look good next to my Nurenburg Ring decal !! GREAT JOB GUYS!!
QUOTE (lateapex @ Feb 11 2004, 02:59 PM)
I love this final version of the graphic.
But, it appears that the height to width ratio of the proposed graphic is 1:4. If that is true, then a 7” wide sticker would only need to be 1.75” tall. The proposed height is 3”. Do you need all of that blank space above and below the graphic? I have never put any kind of sticker on my car, and I would rather it be as short as possible. Six or seven inches wide seems reasonable.
Well, I did put a “Taft for President” sticker on my 1908 Oldsmobile, but I had a hard time removing it (they didn’t have bumpers back then) and decided that I would not do it again.
But, it appears that the height to width ratio of the proposed graphic is 1:4. If that is true, then a 7” wide sticker would only need to be 1.75” tall. The proposed height is 3”. Do you need all of that blank space above and below the graphic? I have never put any kind of sticker on my car, and I would rather it be as short as possible. Six or seven inches wide seems reasonable.
Well, I did put a “Taft for President” sticker on my 1908 Oldsmobile, but I had a hard time removing it (they didn’t have bumpers back then) and decided that I would not do it again.
I was just getting rough dimensions. The decal will most likely be multi-pieced so the background is not part of the decal. IOW, each individual letter is one seperate piece and the silhouette is one piece.
To everyone else we are taking a headcount in the other thread-we need that to determine pricing.
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