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Steve91T


I was so excited to get the oil cooler installed when....the adapter doesn't fit. The diameter is too small. I tried to get the adapter to thread just for the hell of it and I couldn't. But then again, I didn't try too hard. I'll try again when I change the oil I an a few days after I cook this oil to over 300 degrees. Better yet, I'll call canton and have them send me the correct one.
CamaroRick
QUOTE (Steve91T @ Jan 10 2016, 05:01 PM) *
Hey guys. I have some questions about oil coolers.

How do I plum to the engine? I'm using a sandwich adapter for oil pressure and temp. There are two unused ports in that adapter. Can I use those for the oil cooler? One of those ports would be for the supply, but where does the return go? It's an LT1 with a Moroso pan.

My other question is are there any problems with mounting the cooler above the engine in the hood scoop? I'm planning on securin the lines to the bottom of the hood and run them down the drivers side hinge then to the engine. I can't imagine there would be any problems with the location, but I thought I'd ask in case you guys know something I don't.

I'm not going to run a thermostat for the oil. I'm just going to tape the back side of the cooler for street use.


If no ones mentiond it already the moroso pan kicks out pretty far and the factory cooler wont work but the LT4 cooler will clear. Ive been down this road in the past. I called Canton to let them know what works with their own pan. They didnt have any notes before

Mine came with an LT4 oil cooler #10244123 the radiator I have has a coolant return to the adapter.
CamaroRick
QUOTE (Steve91T @ Apr 7 2016, 01:09 AM) *


I was so excited to get the oil cooler installed when....the adapter doesn't fit. The diameter is too small. I tried to get the adapter to thread just for the hell of it and I couldn't. But then again, I didn't try too hard. I'll try again when I change the oil I an a few days after I cook this oil to over 300 degrees. Better yet, I'll call canton and have them send me the correct one.


It will def keep your oil cooler than 300 I take it Canton didnt take notes again lol LT4 Cooler worked for me same as c4 vette late lt4 cooler i think but don't entirely remember. It would make sense if they were. I can imagine they designed a pan in the 90's for a LT4 corvette first.

EDIT: LT4 optioned cars
CamaroRick
mr.beachcomber
QUOTE (CamaroRick @ Apr 17 2016, 06:15 AM) *
...It will def keep your oil cooler than 300 I take it Canton didnt take notes again lol LT4 Cooler worked for me same as c4 vette late lt1 cooler i think but don't entirely remember. It would make sense if they were. I can imagine they designed a pan in the 90's for a LT1 corvette first.

Just a quick questions about the LT4 cooler, is this an aftermarket piece? The reason I ask is Chevy dropped the KC4 oil cooler option on the C4 when the factory fill changed over to Mobil 1 starting with the 1992 model using the logic that synthetic oil didn't need an oil cooler. Thanks!
Steve91T


This is what I'm dealing with. I'm screwing my oil filter directly to that. I'm using an oil filter for a 97 LT1. Mobile 1 M-111, for example.
mr.beachcomber
QUOTE (Steve91T @ Apr 18 2016, 02:37 PM) *


This is what I'm dealing with. I'm screwing my oil filter directly to that. I'm using an oil filter for a 97 LT1. Mobile 1 M-111, for example.

Well, learned something new today. The Mobil 1-111 oil filter is the same one I use on my '89 Z51 Vette. Looked up your vehicle and dang if it isn't the same filter recommended for your Camaro. (My '93 LT1 Vette used a Mobil 1-201 oil filter.) Who would of thought that Chevy would use two different filters on the LT1 engine?

Anyway, it solves the adapter mystery. You need a sandwich adapter that works with 13/16-16 threads.
Steve91T
QUOTE (mr.beachcomber @ Apr 18 2016, 12:41 PM) *
QUOTE (Steve91T @ Apr 18 2016, 02:37 PM) *


This is what I'm dealing with. I'm screwing my oil filter directly to that. I'm using an oil filter for a 97 LT1. Mobile 1 M-111, for example.

Well, learned something new today. The Mobil 1-111 oil filter is the same one I use on my '89 Z51 Vette. Looked up your vehicle and dang if it isn't the same filter recommended for your Camaro. (My '93 LT1 Vette used a Mobil 1-201 oil filter.) Who would of thought that Chevy would use two different filters on the LT1 engine?

Anyway, it solves the adapter mystery. You need a sandwich adapter that works with 13/16-16 threads.


Ha no kidding. Well I got the correct thread pitch, but it's too small of a diameter. I'll call canton and see if they have the larger one with the correct pitch.
Steve91T
http://m.summitracing.com/parts/ctr-22-541
Just spoke with Bob at Canton racing. That's the correct part that I need. I just ordered it, should be here in a couple of days.
Blainefab
Replace the block adapter too - that part that has the filter nipple on it. It's pot metal, will crack if you hang anything on it. Makes a big mess.
Canton has a couple different solutions.
Steve91T
QUOTE (Blainefab @ Apr 18 2016, 10:28 PM) *
Replace the block adapter too - that part that has the filter nipple on it. It's pot metal, will crack if you hang anything on it. Makes a big mess.
Canton has a couple different solutions.


Oh that's what you're talking about. I was thinking you were talking about the oil cooler that I've already removed.

I'm not sure if you saw the link I posted just above. That's what Canton told me to buy. I believe it actually does replace the block adapter that you're talking about.
CamaroRick
QUOTE (mr.beachcomber @ Apr 18 2016, 12:37 PM) *
QUOTE (CamaroRick @ Apr 17 2016, 06:15 AM) *
...It will def keep your oil cooler than 300 I take it Canton didnt take notes again lol LT4 Cooler worked for me same as c4 vette late lt1 cooler i think but don't entirely remember. It would make sense if they were. I can imagine they designed a pan in the 90's for a LT1 corvette first.

Just a quick questions about the LT4 cooler, is this an aftermarket piece? The reason I ask is Chevy dropped the KC4 oil cooler option on the C4 when the factory fill changed over to Mobil 1 starting with the 1992 model using the logic that synthetic oil didn't need an oil cooler. Thanks!


Factory piece on the optioned cars. I know it was stock on a 95 1le (mine) I ment to put LT4 vette. I forget the year Its a GM piece I put the part number.

Here is a pic of the top if anyone is wondering


It screws onto that filter adapter. There is a flat O-Ring that seals it to the block
Steve91T
I finally got started installing my oil cooler today. I decided I'm going to mount the oil cooler in the empty space behind the bumper. I bought some sheet metal and made a shroud for it.













I'm going to cut the plastic radiator plastic to allow the oil cooler air to exit to the radiator. I figure doing this will allow the oil cooler to get fresh air along with supplying the radiator with even more air, even if that extra air is hot, it's still air.

I used a 3" hole saw to cut the bumper foam for the air intakes. When I pull the bumper for paint, I'll open up the existing holes in the bumper beam to a full 3".

Anyway, I'll get it it plumbed up tomorrow and see what happens.
Steve91T
It's done!

My first attempt at making lines. Kind of a PITA, but I'm sure next time will be easier. No leaks so I guess I did something right. I had ordered 10' and man I used every inch. So glad I didn't screw up.



So then I ran up to Roush Racing parts and picked up another couple of AN fittings. Holy crap AN fittings are so expensive! Anyway, I got a 90 fitting and it cleared the 02 sensor by a fraction of a millimeter.





As far as the oil cooler goes. I cut the plastics to all the cooler to recess into the plastics.



Steve91T










There's a lot more room between the oil cooler and radiator than it looks.

Anyway, normal driving would be 230-240 degrees. Tonight I took it for a spin and it never got above 200. In traffic it went to 220, but then dropped back down once I got moving again. Can't wait to see how it does on the track in a few weeks.
Steve91T
So today I had a chance to take the Camaro to Target (I didn't dare use the bathroom). Oil temps used to be about 230-235 with the warm weather we've been having. Now the oil temps stay at 200. Now this was a 10 minute drive with a few lights and max speed of 45 mph. On the way home, I took the back way and was able to cruise at 50 or so. This time I kept the revs above 3k and did a few WOT runs in 2nd and 3rd. Even in cooler weather I was able to see 250+ on the street. After the cooler, the most I saw was 215. Next week I'll take on the highway and see what kind of cooling I get at 80.

My theory is the air in front of the radiator is relatively high pressure. Not ideal for an oil cooler exit. But because the air is moving through the radiator, it's lower pressure than the air in front of the bumper. So while it's not as efficient of a location as possible, it's still going to see a decent amount of airflow. The other advantage is the radiator will have more air passing through it.

What do you guys think?
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