NO LONGER AVAILABLE FOR SALE

$$$$$$$$$$One Last cut before it goes to eBay-- $9000 Cash $$$$$$$$ 12/15/07
********PRICE REDUCTION $12,000.00 ******** 11/11/07


Hi all,

I haven't been around for awhile due to some financial realignments. Being self employed is cool but sometimes it can get sorta hinky. Good news is the realignment was a huge success even though I had to really work for a change for awhile.

On to business....



3 years ago I was heavily involved buying police vehicles at auction and flipping them. Crown Vics, Caprices, SUVs etc. It was a great gig. I picked up a 96 B4C from the City of Ft Worth with that intention. Things went terribly awry from that point .

The car ended up becoming a full blown ORR participant... and a family project for myself and my 2 grown kids. That was the best part; doing it with the kids, going to the races and having those once in a lifetime experiences.





So why am I selling? Loss of interest pure and simple. Both kids are active duty military now and they would like race but that just doesn't work out too well. Old Dad likes to race but it just isn't the same without the kids.

Just listing this car is a monumental task because of all the mods that have been done to it.

Here is a URL to several pages that detail the buildup: B4C Build

The car is prepped and in race ready trim. It has participated in 6 ORR races and finished in each one. We ran the Texas Mile in it, an HPDE at Texas World Speedway and Nashville Superspeedway.



Most notable finishes:
1st Place 145mph Class 2006 Roadrunner Open Race
2nd place 130mph Class 2005 Roadrunner Open Rad Race
4th place 135mph Class 2006 Bonneville 100
4th place 145 mph Class 2007 Big Bend Open Road Race
2006 Texas Mile 157.8mph



Modification list:
The '96 ORR car.

SLP dual fan control switch.
Garmin GPS 5+ and Garmin III Plus hardwired
Bearcat scanner mounted in dash
Fire suspression system with 2 nozzles in the drivers compartment
Hard Mounted fire extinguisher
Oil,diff and tranny temp gauges
Kirkey Intermediate Road Race seats x2
! rear seats
! AM/FM Stereo
6pt roll bar
RCI camlock 5pt harness x2
Canon camcorder
Ioport camcorder mount
Driver/navigator helmet intercom Terratrip Terraphone

17" SS 10 spoke wheels - 3 full sets (12 rims)
BF Goodrich g-Force T/A KD 275/40/17 -- 6 tires, 2 with less than 200 miles on them
C5/ Bob Bishop front brake upgrade
Motive 3.42 rear gears
Moser hardened rear axles
AAM rear diff cooler/cover
TorsenT2R(ace) locker
Blaine Fab sideskirts painted to match car

Unbalanced Engineering custom valved Biilstein Race shocks.
Front coilovers/rear springs ala Blaine Fab
Unbalanced Engineering Rear LCAs
Double adjustable chrommoly rear panhard bar
Stock rear sway bar
Raybestos ST41 front brake pads
Raybestos ST42 rear brake pads
New rotors front/rear
Strano 22mm hollow rear sway bar
35mm Strano hollow front sway bar
Suspension Techniques 35mm Solid front sway bar
Custom front air dam
Blaine Fab adjustable rear spoiler- Short version for ORR and taller version fro HPDE
Hood Pins
Rear Hatch lockdowns




Tranny Cooler - A4 tranny
Setrab oil/water cooler with Blaine Fab custom install kit (not istalled)
P/S cooler
SLP CAI
Kooks LT headers
Dr Gas X Pipe
Dr Gas side exit duals
Carbon fiber driveshaft
Ported throttle body
BBK 58mm throttle body
NGK TR7 plugs
OVC spark plug wires
LLoyd Elliot ported intake
LLoyd Elliot Heads
Bret Bauer cam -dynoed 400hp
SVO 42# Injectors
Jeff Creech tune
Goodrich blue silicone hoses
Optima battery
00 gauge custom battery/starter cables
Dayton Top Cog belts
ALL Red Line synthetic fluids

Videos:

171mph in car video

Big Bend 2006 Trackside video @145mph

2006 Bonneville 100 Highlights- R rated for language

I don't want to take up a bunch of Kevin's badwidth with pics. You can see tons of videos and pictures of this car here:

Open Road Racing B4C

The car has not been stripped -- still full interior including working AC, lights, etc . Up until about 3 moths ago it had a current registration and inspection. IE street legal --- sorta.

Now to the rub-- you never get back what you have invested in one of these cars-- that is a given. The biggest bargains are cars that are sorted and ready to go and that is what this one is. I have north of $30k invested and would like to recoup half of that. So let's say $15k for the whole package.

Wondered where you went....... those realignments suck. I lost a 69 Z/28 over one a those.

Damn, that thing has $10000 worth of race parts on it.

No one is responding because we don't want to lose you.

Bock

You have obviously not been running with the right group.

Rethink this, my brother. Come have fun with us in NASA-Tx ...

Bock,

Good to hear from you and thanks for the kind words.

$10k wouldn't touch it. The Unbalanced Engineering stuff was around $2k and the engine was built by a Pro over in Longview. There is $10k right there.

I wish Mitch . Ths shop up north is lonely and getting full of cobwebs. I have been working onsite - Mineral Wells, Hamilton and now Huntsville since Aug 1. Money is good and I live in my RV right there but there is no time or opportunity for piddling.

This is me. I think my top speed right now is about 11mph but I have lotsa torque.

I've pushed a little dirt in a 12L ... fun, but definitely a different rush.

Last I heard cars don't eat and cobwebs dust off ...

You are a 3.42 gear away from a damed competitive TT car.

Just get a car cover for now, im in college and don't have time for the car, but I know time I get rid of it ill want it back.

Guys,

I drove this car at Nashville Superspeedway. It's a well sorted rocket. I have to say that I was truly impressed with Andy's toy and can tell you that this car is a giant head start if you want to build an LT1 4th gen. And it does "haul the mail" (and it sounds wicked too!).

Thanks Kevin!

If anybody wants to cross post this classified to other boards they are active on, I would appreciate it. I just feel funny jumping in the middle of somebody else's sandbox with a classified. Talked to my daughter today who is stationed in the Azores Islands. She said " Daddy, list on FRRAX first. At least they will appreciate it for what it is and understand all the sweat and money that has been poured into the car."

Mitch,

It already has 3.42 gears. Gives it a real jump off the corners at 120+.

I kinda don't want it to sell, that way you'll stick around with us.

I do wish you the best either way you go my friend!

Hey I think we could find you a few adoptable over grown kids here!lol

Thanks John!

I don't think I could afford to support any of the overgrown kids here.

But dad......

Don't make me stop this car.

At least I know that the brakes are good.....

Nice. And you say the A/C works? I wonder how that'd do as a daily-driver, too?

I'd drive it..... The cage (roll bar) and seats are not the best for daily use, but it could be done.

Yeah, my other DD is a 92 B4C, with Koni yellows, so stiff suspension is not a problem. I rather like the seating position of Kirkeys, too. An automatic, and A/C IS an issue, though, as the commute is long, hot, and deals with traffic.

Hmmmmm.

It is way loud Gene. I took it to about one car show/meet per week and always drove it if it was dry. Those KDs suck in the rain.

Yea, but it sounds GRRRRRRRRRRRREAT.

[/tony the tiger]

********PRICE REDUCTION $12,000.00 ******** 11/11/07

Yeah! I looked at this Nice Camaro and Most impressed nice is shocks (Bilsten) at Nashville Spdway..
GOOD Luck on your F/S .

Ok Guys,

I am wanting to close the Shop north of Dallas and I need to find a home for this car to do that.

I have been involved in some interesting trades in the past so start thinking "Cash Plus????"

I have use for:
4x4 UV like a Kawasaki Mule or Polaris.
Small enclosed trailer 12-14ft
Guns esp anything in 45 Auto
Suzuki Samurai
3rd gen F Bods
LTx Corvettes
Be creative!

I have no use for porn collections, mind altering drugs, GF's you are tired of or taxidermied animals. Everything else is pretty wide open.

One time I had a '95 F bod that I let go for a pittance and I got a beating on here for not 'letting everybody know'. Somebody is gonna get a helluva deal on this car.....

Andy, say it ain't so!! I heard it was forsale, and I just couldn't believe it. I do know that the best part of the ORR for you was doing it with your son, but you could find a place to store that sucker for a while and get back into it later!

Agreed, someone is going to get a hell of a car here.

Glad to hear you're doing ok Andy! Been too long,
-jeff

Damn, so close and yet so far away.....

You're really tempting me Andy. You did say 3rd gens (though I expect you want a streetable one).

That is a really good deal. If I could do it all over again I'd buy someone else's project instead of droping a fortune making my own.

The elusive Milkman surfaces! How cool is that? Jeff, it was just a combination of things that led to the decision; the biggest one being the kids being flung to the far corners by Uncle Sam. Good to hear from you too!

I always tempt you don't I Kevin? Yeah, a streetable vehicle is what I need. Giving up the shop with 2 bays and a lift and moving everything into a double garage in my slice of Suburbia doesn't lend itself to projects very well.

Some more pics to tempt the lurkers, lookers and wannabe ORR racers:



Blaine Spoiler- It comes with a taller short track version as well.



Bilstein race shocks and springs from UE

I'm not that elusive. I'm interrupt driven! Bzzzzt. Read email. Bzzzzt. hello this is Jeff. Bzzzzzt. 2pm appt is here.

There is the "blah blah blah ORR blah blah" and I think "What's up with Andy, I should say hi" but no other interrupt exists.

I'm too old to keep it all straight in my head.

But I'm glad you're doing well, sad that this chapter is ending, but happy that there will be another chapter and another cool race car!!!
-jeff "old guy"

Sorry about previous mess up -- newbie!!

Any interest in 2000 SS 6sp with a few small up dates. But still daily driver.

Sure Wolfgang,

Welcome to the boards. Want to give me some particulars on your F Bod?

More current Pics:

Hi Andy. Engine stock except for LS1 air box, aluminum crank pulley & stainless rear half exhaust system. Front suspension has global west upper control arms, bilstein shocks F & R, Eibach springs,C5 front calipers & rotors. Braided steel brake hoses. rear suspension Metco LCA, tubular panhard bar, randon tech torque arm. poly bushings F & R. Aluminun flywheel, Pro 5.0 shifter, Kenny Brown double d frame stiffner. tringular front strut brace. CAGS shift eliminator. This is my Middle Age toy. 60 year old geaser. Wolfgang 770-355-0974

We are a bit more mature crowd here Wolfgang. 60 is not geezer age at all -- I am 52. One of my good friends started to ORR race 2 years ago at 62.

What do you want out of your car? Color? Hardtop or t tops? Miles? 770 is Georgia area code right?

Ditto Stan,

Although there is quite a bot of satisfaction from creating your own racer. If I had it to do over again, I might not do it at all

Yes, there certainly is. But with the advent of Ebay and message boards we are capable of buying someone elses project, taking off the parts that you don't like, and selling them for usually 50-75% of the original purchase price. That pays for the things that you want to do/change.

I don't think it would be too hard to sell your shocks and a few other items on this forum

The color is pewter, interior is charcoal - you know - almost black. I installed quality sheep skin seat covers at about 5K miles. So leather is as new. Car has about 62,400 miles. Always changed oil every 3000 to 3500 miles with sybthetic oil. advantage of having my own shop. It is a T-Top . Also has 10 disc CD player in left rear. Yes the phone # is Atlanta area. I live NE in Buford. Call anytime to get more info if necessary. I don't type that well. Old guy Wolfgang

Enjoy Thanksgiving and look for a call Friday. I lived in Newnan for quite sometime --southwest side of the Big A.

OK everyone,

The weather has curtailed the dirt excavation for the time being and I have taken the next 30 days off. One of the things that has to be done is vacating my shop prior to Jan 1. This car is in th shop so it has gotta go.

$9000 cash with all the spares and stuff ready to go.

This has got to be the Santa deal of the century.

I don't have the money, but I'd love to get this car!! I wish my dad was a road racer instead of a drag racer, then he could get it haha.

Wow. Superb deal.

30 days? You only need about 5 to pull the car apart. Then the rest of the 30 to sell off the goodies. There's easily 9G there. Still got the stock parts?

Stan,

The car would just be a shell at that point. It spent 132k miles in service with the Fort Worth PD. Everything on it was bent, broken, holed or taped up. The stock stuff was worn out crap and went to the scrap man.

It would be a shame to break this car up and sell it off for parts with everything in top shape and ready to go racing!

Andy's right, it would be a shame to tear it down.

SOMEBODY BUY THIS CAR!!!!

You won't be sorry....

I 100% agree, however at some point money is money, and it's your money.

I WILL STORE THE CAR FOR YOU ANDY


IT WILL COST YOU A 12 PACK A YEAR, DELIVERED IN PERSON THOUGH!

Damn, nice looking shop there John!

Back Around 1975 I had a '67 Jaguar XKE. The 4.2 liter straight six was toast and I dropped a little balanced Ford 289 and 4 speed into it with the help of a kit. Many, many times I wished I had kept that car but at 18 or 19 years old, I was just not that bright.

Over the weekend, I talked to my 20 yo daughter who is USAF stationed at Lajes Field, Azores and she made a good arguement to keep the car. Then this morning, John sent me an PM basically saying the same thing. I can't stand in the face of such logical pressure and plus John's Pay It Forward oil pan is on the car.

The car is OFF the market, I will store it in the temp controlled basement of my commercial building until such time I feel the need for speed. I have always wanted to try it on the Salt Flats..........

YES!!! I'm so happy that you're going to keep it!! YES!!!

I never wanted you to sell in the first place!! That's awesome news!!!
-jeff

THATS WHAT WE WERE HOPING FOR..... Excellent idea Andy.

Milkman and I talked about buyin the car, but hell, we're both broke.

Bock

Damn Andy, that's the best news I've heard in weeks.