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 Jul 12 2007, 10:37 PM
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those of you w/ subscriptions gotten it yet?
anyone seen it on the stands yet? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) |
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Jul 12 2007, 10:47 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,277 Joined: 4-May 04 From: Kenvil, NJ Member No.: 331 |
I met one of their authors at an autocross and he mentioned doing an issue just for autocrossing and road racing. Guess this is the one you're referring to, I have a subscription but haven't seen it yet.
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Jul 12 2007, 11:20 PM
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Veteran Member Group: Member Posts: 2,688 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Ft Worth, TX Member No.: 8 |
look for a feature on me in it. thats why i want it. i need about 10 copies!
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Jul 13 2007, 12:32 AM
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FRRAX Owner/Admin Group: Admin Posts: 15,401 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Ohio Member No.: 196 |
QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jul 12 2007, 07:20 PM)  look for a feature on me in it. Geez, if that's the best they can do..... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/nutkick.gif) Is it on the CMC car or your LS1 car? Congrats Glenn! |
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Jul 13 2007, 12:43 AM
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Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 205 Joined: 23-December 06 Member No.: 1,551 |
QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jul 12 2007, 05:20 PM) look for a feature on me in it. thats why i want it. i need about 10 copies! Sheesh, Glenn, the coolest guy I don't know. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif) |
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Jul 13 2007, 01:22 AM
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Nothing says 'I love you.' like a box of Hydroshoks Group: Moderators Posts: 5,284 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Granbury, TX Member No.: 4 |
QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jul 12 2007, 06:20 PM) look for a feature on me in it. thats why i want it. i need about 10 copies! Yer welcome ... |
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Jul 13 2007, 02:06 AM
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Veteran Member Group: Member Posts: 2,688 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Ft Worth, TX Member No.: 8 |
Trackbird - the CMC car. don't hate the player, hate the game!
supermac - thanks. Mitch - havei said lately that you are the man? well you are. |
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Jul 13 2007, 02:08 AM
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FRRAX Owner/Admin Group: Admin Posts: 15,401 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Ohio Member No.: 196 |
QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jul 12 2007, 10:06 PM) Trackbird - the CMC car. don't hate the player, hate the game! Are you bringing that game to nationals this year??? |
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Jul 13 2007, 02:11 AM
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Veteran Member Group: Member Posts: 2,688 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Ft Worth, TX Member No.: 8 |
i had my B game last year. the A game will be there for '07.
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Jul 13 2007, 02:24 AM
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FRRAX Owner/Admin Group: Admin Posts: 15,401 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Ohio Member No.: 196 |
QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jul 12 2007, 10:11 PM) i had my B game last year. the A game will be there for '07. Uh oh. Have we installed an oil slick and smoke screen device? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) And, are we bringing spare alternator parts this year? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/nutkick.gif) If last year was your B game, I'm afraid to watch this year. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif) |
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Jul 13 2007, 02:37 AM
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Veteran Member Group: Member Posts: 2,688 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Ft Worth, TX Member No.: 8 |
one thing of note, the guy who won CMC in 06 has been discovered to have been cheeting by like 20 hp. not sure how or difinitively if he was at Nats 06, but he had been all this year. that validates my performance a little. plus, since i have returned from Mid Ohio in '06, i have dropped 1.5 seconds off my lap times at just about every track i drove since then.
my home track best lap pre Mid Ohio was 1:25.8, post Mid Ohio its a 1:24.3. this is the tracki have been driving on since 1999. so my A game is coming. and yes, an alt bracket is on the spares list. in fact, we have talked about bringing Mitch's CMC car as a back up. |
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Jul 13 2007, 02:42 AM
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FRRAX Owner/Admin Group: Admin Posts: 15,401 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Ohio Member No.: 196 |
QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jul 12 2007, 10:37 PM) one thing of note, the guy who won CMC in 06 has been discovered to have been cheeting by like 20 hp. That's funny, someone who I'll not mention told me (on the phone) that they dyno'd that car often and it was always 20+ hp down and that the kid was just fast. Interesting..... |
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Jul 13 2007, 04:18 AM
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Nothing says 'I love you.' like a box of Hydroshoks Group: Moderators Posts: 5,284 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Granbury, TX Member No.: 4 |
QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jul 12 2007, 09:06 PM) Mitch - havei said lately that you are the man? well you are. Not often enough ... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/drink.gif) |
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Jul 13 2007, 02:52 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,936 Joined: 26-September 05 From: Youngstown, OH Member No.: 896 |
Howdy,
QUOTE (trackbird @ Jul 12 2007, 10:42 PM) QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jul 12 2007, 10:37 PM) one thing of note, the guy who won CMC in 06 has been discovered to have been cheeting by like 20 hp. That's funny, someone who I'll not mention told me (on the phone) that they dyno'd that car often and it was always 20+ hp down and that the kid was just fast. Interesting..... Doesn't CMC dyno after the race? How was he cheating? Different programming or ?? Mark |
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Jul 13 2007, 03:16 PM
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Veteran Member Group: Member Posts: 2,688 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Ft Worth, TX Member No.: 8 |
in most regions its a random check. some regions are set-up to be able to dyno after a race w/ the top 4 or so. this normally requires a dyno on site. here, we seal hoods and computers and have them report to a dyno before the next race w/ a CMC official there to unseal the car.
i've been told the problem was two fold w/ regards to "him". 1) he was dyno'ing at a very high altitude in Nevada and racing at near sea level. this rule loophole was closed this year. even so, it has always been a requirement that your car be legal as it rolls off the track, not the dyno you cert the car on at the begining of the year. 2) he was getting some "help" from the shop w/ the dyno. there is no finacial gain in CMC from cheeting. so your only fooling yourself by doing it. CMC is a drivers class and if you have to cheet to win, your not a good driver. as for him being 20 hp down. well over on CMC forums Tony commented about how they had sealed and marked various things on the motor at the begining of the 2007 season due to him not having a current dyno sheet. after he refused several times to report to the dyno he was ejected from CMC till like 2009. the car was raced by his father recently. all the seals and markings were still in place and the car was dyno'ed as raced since the start of the 2007 season and made somewhere between 245-260hp. he was fine w/ that power as he was running CMC-2 w/ it that particular weekend. but thats enough proof for me that he was well over the power limit this year and most likely last year too, including Nationals. you guys can form your own opinions, i have mine. i was suspicious of it at Nationals but had no way of proving it. i wasnt about to say a word since in 2005 i had caused alot of issues in the Texas region w/ those type of accusations. i left it alone. i also thought it would look like sour grapes w/ my 3rd place finish and i was happy enough to be on the podium. this is just another reason the 2006 Nationals will always be somewhat in question. that and the start of the Championship race was really messed up. on a side note, my new motor is now restriced down to twin 31mm holes at the T/B. it made 216hp/301tq. proof enough that CMC is not all about power. in fact, w/ those numbers, my minimum is now 3210. so i'm way down on HP and a little up on weight (i normally come off at 3230-3240 though). |
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Jul 13 2007, 03:35 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,038 Joined: 29-December 03 From: Texas, USA Member No.: 62 |
Did they not dyno all the cars at mid-ohio nats last year?
Costas cars and such... |
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Jul 13 2007, 03:44 PM
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Veteran Member Group: Member Posts: 2,688 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Ft Worth, TX Member No.: 8 |
they did not. and his car never finished a single race untill the Championship race. so it was never Teched post race. he also had a "lab coat mechanic" there doing all his work. not sure what to make of all that.
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Jul 13 2007, 04:15 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,441 Joined: 30-December 03 Member No.: 76 |
Rick Jensen told me around Sept 1st..... Because I'm in that issue too.
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Jul 13 2007, 04:25 PM
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FRRAX Owner/Admin Group: Admin Posts: 15,401 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Ohio Member No.: 196 |
QUOTE (Sam Strano @ Jul 13 2007, 12:15 PM) Rick Jensen told me around Sept 1st..... Because I'm in that issue too. Sweet. I'll have to go buy that one. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif) |
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Jul 13 2007, 05:03 PM
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Veteran Member Group: Member Posts: 2,688 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Ft Worth, TX Member No.: 8 |
we are twinkies! yea!
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