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Sam Strano
Notes: Due to members here being more serious, I'm adding a few words about the how and why I did these springs. I got fed up. I felt it was time for a serious set of springs that did not require the purchase of coil-over and weight jacker hardware, that don't come loose at droop, that don't use what I feel are very high spring rates in the rear, and not slam the car to the ground.

The rates are derived from the rates I use on my coil-overs and weight jackers on my own car. They are proven both front and rear and what I felt was best for a set of lowering springs build to perform.
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Strano Performance Parts Lowering Spring sets are officially on sale. A second shipment is due in here next week, we've found the ride heights and fitment to be just what was intended. So they will now be available to the general public.

The all important details:

Price: $269 shipped

Lowering amount: Approximately 1.25-1.3" (result vary from car to car, but all have been consistently in that range as was intended.

Spring rate: 550 lb/in. linear rate front. 100/150 lb/in. dual-stage rear. The dual stage is needed to keep the spring from coming loose in droop. the working rate is only 150 lbs/in. and it's very obvious the softer portion is immediately non-working when the car is on the ground.

Other details: I did all the specification work on these springs. The rates, the amount of lowering are all mine. These are NOT just rebranded springs. I don't have spring equipment, so I can't make them. The company building these for me is Vogtland.
Vogtland has pretty much taken over the market in some big racing series which tells you the springs are not crap.

My springs use Vogtland's proprietary VVS alloy which is 35% lighter than the normal spring steel. A set of Strano Peformance Parts springs boxed is 28 pounds. A set of anything else, Hotchkis, Eibach, etc.... is around 40-44 pounds depending on the actual spring set.

And here are some comments gather from the testers so far:

"I wanted to chime in about the drag racing capability.
I ran a personal best today with strano springs and koni SA's.
12.1 @ 118, 1.91 60'. "

"Stance looks perfect.
Ride is firm.
Turns great.
Springs = great product."

"The ride height data:
Before with LCA brackets, UMI APHR, 275/35 18 front 295/35 18 rear, stock
springs and struts/shocks, stock control arms.
LF: 27 1/2
LR: 28 5/8
RF: 27 1/2
RR: 28 1/2

After:
LF: 26 5/16
LR: 27 1/4
RF: 26 5/16
RR: 27 1/8

Total drop so far:
F: 1 3/16
R: 1 3/8
The springs stay put at full droop too."

"Got the Konis and springs on the car, Sam you have mail! I am very happy with the ride height / handling of the car so far. Thanks for the help Sam!"
sgarnett
QUOTE (Sam Strano @ Sep 19 2006, 11:53 AM) *
So they will not be available to the general public.


I assume that's not exactly what you meant to say smile.gif

The light alloy is a nice bonus. This sounds like exactly what the market has needed for a long time. I hope you are getting enough orders to keep them in production long-term.
Sam Strano
Arghhh... I'm having a bad typing day, and a worse proof-reading one. I guess I'm thinking about Topeka too much. smile.gif

Thanks for the catch Sean. smile.gif
umrjmac
I'll be giving you a call as soon as I scrape a little cash together smile.gif
HawkFanatic
Hey Sam, interested in a Strano Springs/revalved shocks package soon and was wondering with the 1.25-1.3" drop if LCA relocation brackets are needed?

thanks
Sam Strano
Not necessarily..... Many cars lowered without them. If wheel-hop is a problem we can deal with that. We sell them, but I don't feel (ok I know) that not all cars need them. Most don't IMO.
poSSum
Sam ... would you consider selling just rears? I'm not about to give up the GC front setup.
K Shaw
third or 4th gen?

kyle
slowcamaro
QUOTE (K Shaw @ Oct 6 2006, 05:58 PM) *
third or 4th gen?

kyle



They're fourth gen springs.
K Shaw
Thats what I thought. Thanks.

kyle
Sam Strano
QUOTE (poSSum @ Oct 6 2006, 05:32 PM) *
Sam ... would you consider selling just rears? I'm not about to give up the GC front setup.


At some point possibly, but not at this time only full sets are available.
Sam Strano
Springs are physically here. We packed and shipped many sets yesterday, and have gotten dug out of the backorder hole. That means we're free to pack some for you. smile.gif

As usual, I'm willing to answer any questions you have about the product and/or compatible parts. Springs are much like my bars in that I did the spec, they are based off of my car and my results. And weight was a factor. Remember we are talking about springs that are about 25 pounds for a full set vs. roughly 40.......

Rates that are known, lighter material, reasonable ride heights.... I tried to make the best part I could.
01badz28
I've got Sams springs on my car (along w/ Koni SAs, 35mm front bar, 21mm rear bar, and SFCs). After running on old worn out de carbons for the past three autocross seasons, I am very pleased with the new set up. I ran the car at a non-SCCA autocross at 411 speedway (small, paved oval with an infield section) and the car was very well balanced. I have some pictures of the car in action if anyone wants to see them, and if Sam doesn't have a problem with it.
Sam Strano
Nope, no problem with you posting pics at all!
01badz28
Here you go:









I don't have any static shots to show off the new stance since my camera quit working, but hopefully you can get a feel for it from the pictures I do have.
HawkFanatic
do they come powdercoated or painted?
Color?
Is the material a steel alloy or??
trackbird
They are white as I remember. I believe Sam picked white so you could tell them from all the grey/blue/black/red springs that are already out there. That way it will be easier for someone to go "I just bought this car, it's lowered and has white springs on it, any idea what they are?" and we can help them.

It's a ferrous alloy that's a bit lighter than most spring steel (as I understand it). I'll let Sam fill in any deeper details than that.
BumpaD_Z28
QUOTE (K Shaw @ Oct 6 2006, 04:58 PM) *
third or 4th gen?

kyle


Sam any plans for a 3rd gen spring package ??? I have Eibach sportlines and I love the stance, but how much are they killing me in the handling dept. ???
Jeff94TA
QUOTE (trackbird @ Nov 20 2006, 02:09 PM) *
They are white as I remember.


Kevin is correct they are white. There shouldn't be any confusing these with any other springs that are out there especially if you look carefully at the spelling. Sorry Sam I couldn't resist. biggrin.gif
trackbird
Spelling? Did someone make a typo or something?
Jeff94TA
QUOTE (trackbird @ Nov 20 2006, 10:39 PM) *
Spelling? Did someone make a typo or something?


"Strano Preformance" I don't know that I would have noticed if Arlyn hadn't told me about it though.
trackbird
Those will be collectors items one day.

Like those rare stamps, etc.....wink.gif
Sam Strano
Germans can't spell, I guess. wink.gif
Sam Strano
I'm starting to run low, and being that it'll be 12-15 WEEKS to build more, I wanted to let you guys know the stock is getting down.....


Pics:
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=644012
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=576054

Details:
--$269 delivered to continential US
--Proven Spring rates and ride heights derived from my own car.
--Very streetable, firm but no stiffer than they need to be
--Lighter weight, approximately 13 pounds less than other aftermarket springs
--Springs are tempered, shot-peened, and pre-set after winding.
--Rates guaranteed to be within 2% of advertised (most good spring are only guaranteed to be within 5% of nominal).
y5e06
Sam, I'll take a set for my ex-FStock car. I'll call in a bit if I can, or tomorrow.
Morgan
Sam Strano
If I can't answer (working alone), just leave a message please.......
bowtieboy
Sam

Tried to call you to see if you still have a set but got the machine. Do you still have a set ?
......and to see how many you have on "the list" for the bushings ~ might want those as well.


.....just let me know

Thanks
Andrew
Sam Strano
QUOTE (bowtieboy @ Mar 5 2007, 11:04 AM) *
Sam

Tried to call you to see if you still have a set but got the machine. Do you still have a set ?
......and to see how many you have on "the list" for the bushings ~ might want those as well.


.....just let me know

Thanks
Andrew


Out of springs, 6-8 weeks for more to arrive.
I have 3 on the list for bushings.
QUASAR
Sam how do you feel about these springs paired with koni DA's in the rear and a Dana 60 axle?

Still looking at 4-6 weeks for springs?
Sam Strano
Shcoks are a-ok. Axle is unsprung, so really the springs aren't a factor either way because of it. But I just did a set on a car for GMHTP magazine and it will in the future have an S60 in it, I think it'd be fine (other than dragging that much unsprung weight around in general).
Jeff94TA
Just thought I would bring this back to the top and give a quick review on my impression of the Strano springs. I swaped out my Eibach Pro kit springs for Strano springs and also went from a stock 19mm rear bar to a Strano hollow 22mm bar. You can see the rest of my mods in my signature and I run 315/35 17 V710's for my race tires.

I've run one autocross and one track event at Sebring on the new setup so far. The old setup would tend to understeer when pushed to the limit but I'm happy to say that now the car feels quite neutral with a hint of on throttle over steer. I had to get used to it but now in the tighter turns I can use the throttle to induce a little rotation and it's just a blast. I always had trouble with the "safety pen", turn 7, at Sebring and once I got the hang of the new setup I could rotate the car and my exit speeds were much better. I'm heading back this weekend so hopefully I can get some lap times for comparison to my old ones.

Thanks for the help and a great product Sam. beerchug.gif
bowtieboy
Sam ~ I read over in another forum that you were taking orders/payments in advance to reserve one of the sets you have coming.......is this ture ?

I thought that I would post this here for a response to make all aware that might want a set.

.....just let me know

Thanks
Sam Strano
I'm taking backorders.... That's true. Shipment is supposed to be in port the week of the 23rd (which is now it). Customers, truck and shipped out as soon as they get here.
citationdoc
Are there sets still available for purchase from this last batch?
Sam Strano
QUOTE (citationdoc @ May 9 2007, 02:23 AM) *
Are there sets still available for purchase from this last batch?


100 sets coming (I hope in the next few days!) about 30 are sold.
Sam Strano
Of course, the next few days turned into 3 full weeks, but. THEY'RE HERE. smile.gif
poSSum
Did they happen to send you too many rears again?
Sam Strano
Don't know yet... hard to dig through 2500 pounds of springs that quickly. smile.gif
wdtiger
Finally got mine installed. Along with Koni SA shocks. Massive difference, feels like a whole new animal! Can't wait for the next auto-x event. +1 for these springs!

Edit: After a couple days on this setup, i'm a believer. The car reacts and handles like never before. It feels awesome!
Doug Phillips
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