KeithO
Jan 26 2006, 10:56 AM
Guys and Gals,
I am trying to research rear alignment values on 3rd and 4th gen cars over time. What I am hoping to be able to get is the rear alignment specs from every f-body shop manual from 1982 through 2002. This may be the only place on the planet (other than some magical GM library in Detroit) where this may be possible.
For example, here is the page from the 1995 F-Body GM Shop Manual detailing the alignment specs for the 1995 model year:
http://shbox.com/1/alignment_specs.jpgIf you have a shop manual and are willing to contribute, please add the rear specs from your manual to this thread (assuming the year that you have isn't already posted).
Thanks,
Keith
Ojustracing
Jan 26 2006, 02:06 PM
Keith let me look at what I have here. Program wont let me cut and paste and have to hand write. Let me see what I can come up. I been super busy with my paying winter project so that comes first. John
trackbird
Jan 26 2006, 02:08 PM
I've got a 2001 factory manual, I should be able to check it and my 1988 and 1990 factory manuals are at a friends house right now.
CMC#5
Jan 26 2006, 02:44 PM
The 1993 mannual states the same as the 95 you posted with the exception being that max rear camber is listed as 0.6 not 1.6.
sgarnett
Jan 26 2006, 03:44 PM
QUOTE (trackbird @ Jan 26 2006, 09:08)
I've got a 2001 factory manual, I should be able to check it and my 1988 and 1990 factory manuals are at a friends house right now.
I could only find rear caster and thrust angle in my 2001 manual (the set of three), Kevin. Maybe I was still at a coffee defecit, so if you find a rear camber spec please post the page number
JimMueller
Jan 26 2006, 04:44 PM
From the 1999 Helms book, page 3-9:
Front Caster: Set 4.5 to 5.5, Check 4.0 to 6.0
Cross Caster (Front): Set -0.7 to 0.7, Check -0.7 to 0.7
Front Camber: Set -0.1 to 0.9, Check -0.6 to 1.4
Cross Camber (Front): -0.7 to 0.7, Check -0.7 to 0.7
Individual Toe (Front): Set -0.1 to 0.1, Check -0.1 to 0.1
Total Toe (Front): Set -0.2 to 0.2, Check -0.2 to 0.2
Steering Wheel Angle (Front): Set -3.5 to 3.5, Check -3.5 to 3.5
Rear Camber: Set -0.6 to 0.6, Check -0.6 to 0.6
Cross Camber (Rear): Set -0.6 to 0.6, Check -0.6 to 0.6
Total Toe (Rear): Set -0.3 to 0.3, Check -0.3 to 0.3
Rear Thrust Angle: Set -0.15 to 0.15, Check -0.15 to 0.15
timyerby
Jan 26 2006, 06:59 PM
I've got an 02 factory manual, will check tonight.
Jeff94TA
Jan 26 2006, 08:06 PM
I'll look at my 94 manual tonight and post then.
Nick
Jan 26 2006, 10:44 PM
The 2002 manual shows rear toe between -0.3 to 0.3.
Thrust angle -0.25 to 0.25.
I didn't see anything about camber.
bsim
Jan 27 2006, 05:40 AM
1997 Factory service manual, page 3A-7:
Rear Camber
0.0 +/- 0.6 Set
0.0 +/- 1.6 Check
Rear Cross Camber
0.0 +/- 0.6 Set
0.0 +/- 0.6 Check
Total Toe
0.0 +/- 0.3 Set
0.0 +/- 0.3 Check
Thrust Angle
0.0 +/- 0.15 Set
0.0 +/- 0.15 Check
35th_Anniversary_AS_Camaro_SS
Jan 27 2006, 06:22 AM
I don't have a GM Techline DVD manual (and I don't know how to make copies

) that doesn't list the alignment specifications for 1998-2005 (2002 in case of camaro).
copy & paste was too much effort, and forum doesn't take html so
PDF linky:
1998 to 2002 alignment specs
35th_Anniversary_AS_Camaro_SS
Jan 27 2006, 06:25 AM
QUOTE (sgarnett @ Jan 26 2006, 09:44)
QUOTE (trackbird @ Jan 26 2006, 09:08)
I've got a 2001 factory manual, I should be able to check it and my 1988 and 1990 factory manuals are at a friends house right now.
I could only find rear caster and thrust angle in my 2001 manual (the set of three), Kevin. Maybe I was still at a coffee defecit, so if you find a rear camber spec please post the page number
as you'll see in the linky I posted these rear camber numbers were eliminated (as in the mention of rear camber) in 2001 and 2002 manuals.
sgarnett
Jan 27 2006, 11:04 AM
Hmmm, in 2001 they also reduced the nominal front caster and increased the rear thrust angle tolerance range

That's strange, considering my 2001 is a caster freak with more than most
KeithO
Jan 27 2006, 01:00 PM
I have created a table containing the rear camber specs by year using the information that we have already seen in this post so far.
It's 252k jpg file. Anyone willing to host it so I can include it here?
As new information becomes available, I will update it and again make it available.
Ojustracing
Jan 27 2006, 01:25 PM
QUOTE (KeithO @ Jan 26 2006, 04:56)
Guys and Gals,
I am trying to research rear alignment values on 3rd and 4th gen cars over time. What I am hoping to be able to get is the rear alignment specs from every f-body shop manual from 1982 through 2002. This may be the only place on the planet (other than some magical GM library in Detroit) where this may be possible.
For example, here is the page from the 1995 F-Body GM Shop Manual detailing the alignment specs for the 1995 model year:
http://shbox.com/1/alignment_specs.jpgIf you have a shop manual and are willing to contribute, please add the rear specs from your manual to this thread (assuming the year that you have isn't already posted).
Thanks,
Keith
Keith you just want rear setting only? I have every setting from 82-current. Just going to take some time to copy it.
Let me know John
z28jeff
Jan 27 2006, 01:30 PM
QUOTE (KeithO @ Jan 27 2006, 07:00)
It's 252k jpg file. Anyone willing to host it so I can include it here?
Send an e-mail to Eric. Since it's usefull racing information, there shouldn't be any problem putting it on autoxphotos.com. He'll give you instructions on how to do it yourself.
KeithO
Jan 27 2006, 04:50 PM
QUOTE (Ojustracing @ Jan 27 2006, 07:25)
QUOTE (KeithO @ Jan 26 2006, 04:56)
Guys and Gals,
I am trying to research rear alignment values on 3rd and 4th gen cars over time. What I am hoping to be able to get is the rear alignment specs from every f-body shop manual from 1982 through 2002. This may be the only place on the planet (other than some magical GM library in Detroit) where this may be possible.
For example, here is the page from the 1995 F-Body GM Shop Manual detailing the alignment specs for the 1995 model year:
http://shbox.com/1/alignment_specs.jpgIf you have a shop manual and are willing to contribute, please add the rear specs from your manual to this thread (assuming the year that you have isn't already posted).
Thanks,
Keith
Keith you just want rear setting only? I have every setting from 82-current. Just going to take some time to copy it.
Let me know John
John,
I am interested in what GM was saying regarding rear camber. It seems that there was an evolution in the specs for essentially the same part and I am trying to make sense of it.
I am not sure what form your information is but I would be glad to type the information in if it is in an e-mailable form.
Keith
KeithO
Jan 27 2006, 04:50 PM
QUOTE (z28jeff @ Jan 27 2006, 07:30)
QUOTE (KeithO @ Jan 27 2006, 07:00)
It's 252k jpg file. Anyone willing to host it so I can include it here?
Send an e-mail to Eric. Since it's usefull racing information, there shouldn't be any problem putting it on autoxphotos.com. He'll give you instructions on how to do it yourself.
I'll get to it some time today. Thanks.
Ojustracing
Jan 27 2006, 08:04 PM
QUOTE (KeithO @ Jan 27 2006, 10:50)
QUOTE (Ojustracing @ Jan 27 2006, 07:25)
QUOTE (KeithO @ Jan 26 2006, 04:56)
Guys and Gals,
I am trying to research rear alignment values on 3rd and 4th gen cars over time. What I am hoping to be able to get is the rear alignment specs from every f-body shop manual from 1982 through 2002. This may be the only place on the planet (other than some magical GM library in Detroit) where this may be possible.
For example, here is the page from the 1995 F-Body GM Shop Manual detailing the alignment specs for the 1995 model year:
http://shbox.com/1/alignment_specs.jpgIf you have a shop manual and are willing to contribute, please add the rear specs from your manual to this thread (assuming the year that you have isn't already posted).
Thanks,
Keith
Keith you just want rear setting only? I have every setting from 82-current. Just going to take some time to copy it.
Let me know John
John,
I am interested in what GM was saying regarding rear camber. It seems that there was an evolution in the specs for essentially the same part and I am trying to make sense of it.
I am not sure what form your information is but I would be glad to type the information in if it is in an e-mailable form.
Keith
Keith this info is from alldata here at work. The program does not allow me to cut and paste info. So I have to handy copy all the info. I've got everything from 82 and up, some of the info might be repeated but it just takes me some time to do this. I've been busy with my other project at nights, spare time has been hard to come buy as of late.
John
KeithO
Jan 27 2006, 09:20 PM
This isn't time-critical so don't knock yourself out.
Here is what I have so far in text form:
Model Year Rear Camber “Set” Rear Camber “Check”
1982 None specified -3° to +5°
1983
1984
1985
1986
1987
1988
1989
1990
1991
1992 None specified None specified
1993 +/- 0.6° +/- 0.6°
1994 +/- 0.6° +/- 1.6°
1995 +/- 0.6° +/- 1.6°
1996
1997 +/- 0.6° +/- 1.6°
1998 +/- 0.6° +/- 1.6°
1999 +/- 0.6° +/- 0.6°
2000 +/- 0.6° +/- 0.6°
2001 None specified None specified
2002 None specified None specified
RATS! I made them all line up nice and it stripped out the duplicate spaces...
35th_Anniversary_AS_Camaro_SS
Jan 27 2006, 10:03 PM
QUOTE (KeithO @ Jan 27 2006, 15:20)
RATS! I made them all line up nice and it stripped out the duplicate spaces...
use non-breaking spaces... &.nbsp; (without the . after the &)
KeithO
Jan 31 2006, 12:45 PM
Any new information available here?
slowcamaro
Jan 31 2006, 05:07 PM
This is the only info I could find mentioniong the rear axle alignment at all...sourced from 1982 Shop manual
John_D.
Jan 31 2006, 08:46 PM
Wow, up to 5 degrees positive?
If I did my math right, the top of the tire would be 2.25 inches further out than the bottom of the tire... That's a lot.
CMC#5
Feb 1 2006, 12:30 AM
Ok, so I think that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that alignment numbers on these manuals didnt get the QA/QC they deserved

5 degrees...that's funny
KeithO
Feb 1 2006, 12:38 AM
The plot thickens. I love a story with unexpected twists and turns.
Jeff94TA
Feb 1 2006, 02:18 AM
Sorry for the delay.
1994 +/- 0.6° +/- 0.6°
JimMueller
Feb 1 2006, 03:31 AM
Hmm, I know this doesn't help for the rear, but the alignment guy that Jeff94TA and I use put this up for the front specs on his site, based upon what's in the Hunter database:
http://www.centralfloridastreetcars.com/al...gnmentspecs.htmHe said it doesn't have the settings for the rear because it's not designed to be adjustable :-)
KeithO
Feb 1 2006, 04:52 AM
QUOTE (Jeff94TA @ Jan 31 2006, 20:18)
Sorry for the delay.
1994 +/- 0.6° +/- 0.6°
My previous table has been updated. Thanks. We have all 4th gen years except for one.
axoid
Feb 1 2006, 11:17 AM
I looked through my 92 service manual and couldn't find any alignment specs for anything but the front.
z28jeff
Feb 1 2006, 11:31 AM
QUOTE (KeithO @ Jan 31 2006, 22:52)
QUOTE (Jeff94TA @ Jan 31 2006, 20:18)
Sorry for the delay.
1994 +/- 0.6° +/- 0.6°
My previous table has been updated. Thanks. We have all 4th gen years except for one.
Allthough I like what you have down for 94, I believe Jeff94TA said it was +/- 0.6° +/- 0.6°.

Which would make 95 the changeover year to +/- 1.6*.
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