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Steve91T
Alright. Scales are next on the list. I've got Afco front coil over sleeves over koni shocks and pigtails on the rear. I want to practice adjusting the coilovers in my garage to save time at the shop (or someone's garage). For someone's first time doing this, any tips?

I think what I want to do is set the ride height at home so all I need to do is tweak the suspension to dial in the corner weights.

So, that being said. I believe I've read that the front control arms should be more or less level to the ground. Same with the rear, correct? I think I'm sitting slightly lower than "level" right now.

I think people buy heater hose or something to slip over the rear pigs to adjust height? I think I'm on 250# 11" springs with no isolators. I'm going to purchase 200" springs to use with isolators if the rear is too tight on the track. How would swapping out pigs at the track effect the corner balance?


One more question. Let's say I need to add weight to the right front. Do I raise the ride height of the right front of left rear?

Any help will be appreciated. Thanks guys!
Steve
Honda93
QUOTE (Steve91T @ Jan 20 2016, 06:35 PM) *
Alright. Scales are next on the list. I've got Afco front coil over sleeves over koni shocks and pigtails on the rear. I want to practice adjusting the coilovers in my garage to save time at the shop (or someone's garage). For someone's first time doing this, any tips?

I think what I want to do is set the ride height at home so all I need to do is tweak the suspension to dial in the corner weights.

So, that being said. I believe I've read that the front control arms should be more or less level to the ground. Same with the rear, correct? I think I'm sitting slightly lower than "level" right now.

I think people buy heater hose or something to slip over the rear pigs to adjust height? I think I'm on 250# 11" springs with no isolators. I'm going to purchase 200" springs to use with isolators if the rear is too tight on the track. How would swapping out pigs at the track effect the corner balance?


One more question. Let's say I need to add weight to the right front. Do I raise the ride height of the right front of left rear?

Any help will be appreciated. Thanks guys!
Steve


Try this older GRM article.

Also, remember to disconnect the end links of BOTH swaybars to eliminate preload.
Steve91T
QUOTE (Honda93 @ Jan 20 2016, 03:43 PM) *
QUOTE (Steve91T @ Jan 20 2016, 06:35 PM) *
Alright. Scales are next on the list. I've got Afco front coil over sleeves over koni shocks and pigtails on the rear. I want to practice adjusting the coilovers in my garage to save time at the shop (or someone's garage). For someone's first time doing this, any tips?

I think what I want to do is set the ride height at home so all I need to do is tweak the suspension to dial in the corner weights.

So, that being said. I believe I've read that the front control arms should be more or less level to the ground. Same with the rear, correct? I think I'm sitting slightly lower than "level" right now.

I think people buy heater hose or something to slip over the rear pigs to adjust height? I think I'm on 250# 11" springs with no isolators. I'm going to purchase 200" springs to use with isolators if the rear is too tight on the track. How would swapping out pigs at the track effect the corner balance?


One more question. Let's say I need to add weight to the right front. Do I raise the ride height of the right front of left rear?

Any help will be appreciated. Thanks guys!
Steve


Try this older GRM article.

Also, remember to disconnect the end links of BOTH swaybars to eliminate preload.



Great article, thank you. So I took a gender at my control arms and the fronts are angled up slightly (low ride height) and the rears have a decent amont of angle (again, low ride height). Am I remembering correctly that everything should be level with the ground? The rear is going to sit pretty high if that's the case.
Blainefab
QUOTE (Steve91T @ Jan 20 2016, 10:35 AM) *
One more question. Let's say I need to add weight to the right front. Do I raise the ride height of the right front of left rear?


Either, or lower one corner of the other diag, whatever works best with your target ride height.
Blainefab
QUOTE (Steve91T @ Jan 20 2016, 04:18 PM) *
the rears have a decent amont of angle (again, low ride height). Am I remembering correctly that everything should be level with the ground? The rear is going to sit pretty high if that's the case.


weld on relocation brackets - the UMI's work fine.
Steve91T
QUOTE (Blainefab @ Jan 20 2016, 10:16 PM) *
QUOTE (Steve91T @ Jan 20 2016, 04:18 PM) *
the rears have a decent amont of angle (again, low ride height). Am I remembering correctly that everything should be level with the ground? The rear is going to sit pretty high if that's the case.


weld on relocation brackets - the UMI's work fine.



Are bolt in ok? It would save me the ass pain of finding a welder. I'll get this done before putting the car in scales.
Blainefab
QUOTE (Steve91T @ Jan 20 2016, 07:41 PM) *
QUOTE (Blainefab @ Jan 20 2016, 10:16 PM) *
QUOTE (Steve91T @ Jan 20 2016, 04:18 PM) *
the rears have a decent amont of angle (again, low ride height). Am I remembering correctly that everything should be level with the ground? The rear is going to sit pretty high if that's the case.


weld on relocation brackets - the UMI's work fine.



Are bolt in ok? It would save me the ass pain of finding a welder. I'll get this done before putting the car in scales.


No. Absolutely, positively no bolt in. Must weld

ed - I don't think the relocation brackets will affect your crossweights at all - their only affect will be to lengthen the wheelbase a tiny fraction, equally on both sides. So balance it, then get the brackets welded in.
Steve91T
QUOTE (Blainefab @ Jan 21 2016, 12:44 AM) *
QUOTE (Steve91T @ Jan 20 2016, 07:41 PM) *
QUOTE (Blainefab @ Jan 20 2016, 10:16 PM) *
QUOTE (Steve91T @ Jan 20 2016, 04:18 PM) *
the rears have a decent amont of angle (again, low ride height). Am I remembering correctly that everything should be level with the ground? The rear is going to sit pretty high if that's the case.


weld on relocation brackets - the UMI's work fine.



Are bolt in ok? It would save me the ass pain of finding a welder. I'll get this done before putting the car in scales.


No. Absolutely, positively no bolt in. Must weld

ed - I don't think the relocation brackets will affect your crossweights at all - their only affect will be to lengthen the wheelbase a tiny fraction, equally on both sides. So balance it, then get the brackets welded in.



Ok thanks.
CrashTestDummy
QUOTE (Honda93 @ Jan 20 2016, 02:43 PM) *
QUOTE (Steve91T @ Jan 20 2016, 06:35 PM) *
Alright. Scales are next on the list. I've got Afco front coil over sleeves over koni shocks and pigtails on the rear. I want to practice adjusting the coilovers in my garage to save time at the shop (or someone's garage). For someone's first time doing this, any tips?

I think what I want to do is set the ride height at home so all I need to do is tweak the suspension to dial in the corner weights.

So, that being said. I believe I've read that the front control arms should be more or less level to the ground. Same with the rear, correct? I think I'm sitting slightly lower than "level" right now.

I think people buy heater hose or something to slip over the rear pigs to adjust height? I think I'm on 250# 11" springs with no isolators. I'm going to purchase 200" springs to use with isolators if the rear is too tight on the track. How would swapping out pigs at the track effect the corner balance?


One more question. Let's say I need to add weight to the right front. Do I raise the ride height of the right front of left rear?

Any help will be appreciated. Thanks guys!
Steve


Try this older GRM article.

Also, remember to disconnect the end links of BOTH swaybars to eliminate preload.


But once you get the car balanced, you'll want to balance out the sway bars, too when you reconnect them, unless you want some preload. So bolt them back up, check the cross weight, and loosen, or tighten the links accordingly.
Steve91T
QUOTE (CrashTestDummy @ Jan 21 2016, 10:01 AM) *
QUOTE (Honda93 @ Jan 20 2016, 02:43 PM) *
QUOTE (Steve91T @ Jan 20 2016, 06:35 PM) *
Alright. Scales are next on the list. I've got Afco front coil over sleeves over koni shocks and pigtails on the rear. I want to practice adjusting the coilovers in my garage to save time at the shop (or someone's garage). For someone's first time doing this, any tips?

I think what I want to do is set the ride height at home so all I need to do is tweak the suspension to dial in the corner weights.

So, that being said. I believe I've read that the front control arms should be more or less level to the ground. Same with the rear, correct? I think I'm sitting slightly lower than "level" right now.

I think people buy heater hose or something to slip over the rear pigs to adjust height? I think I'm on 250# 11" springs with no isolators. I'm going to purchase 200" springs to use with isolators if the rear is too tight on the track. How would swapping out pigs at the track effect the corner balance?


One more question. Let's say I need to add weight to the right front. Do I raise the ride height of the right front of left rear?

Any help will be appreciated. Thanks guys!
Steve


Try this older GRM article.

Also, remember to disconnect the end links of BOTH swaybars to eliminate preload.


But once you get the car balanced, you'll want to balance out the sway bars, too when you reconnect them, unless you want some preload. So bolt them back up, check the cross weight, and loosen, or tighten the links accordingly.


Ok good to know. Thank you.
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