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trackbird
Ok. I'm going to take one try at actually getting rid of this thing. I have a 1992 Camaro Z28 (there's a 21 page thread here: http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/index.php?sho...=1992&st=20 ). I have about a million dollars in this thing. I am looking to sell everything but the engine, computer and ignition parts. I want to find a 1991 C4 Corvette (M6) to stuff my engine into (If I can't manage to sell this thing towards the Corvette, I guess I may have to finish it, but I really want to move on to other things now).

I can't begin to guess what market value on this car might be...

The cage was built from parts from Alan Blaine and the car should be quite stout. I have over $1,400 invested in the parts for the cage (not counting materials for welding, paint and installation). The seat was bought new for the car and was $800 and there is a fiberglass cowl induction hood on the car (a "few hundred" bucks) and an Alan Blaine lexan rear spoiler. If someone wanted the cage, seat and shell (bare, with tail lights and such but no factory wiring harness, just a shell, cage and seat)... How about $4k or best offer.

T56 (LT1), bellhousing, GM factory flywheel, clutch (Centerforce DF with 1,200 miles on it). $1,400 OBO

B&M Ripper for T56 with Hurst black 6 speed knob. $125 OBO

I don't even have prices for all of this yet and it's late, so I'll list parts and finish this in the morning...or when I get to it.

Afco radiator with built in oil cooler.

Baker Precision power steering cooler.

Earls 13 row stacked platet cooler with 6 AN fittings (brand new)

Lingenfelter 3.5" aluminum driveshaft.

EB Miller C4HD brake kit

A "pile" of new Autometer gauges (tach, speedo, fuel gauge, water temp, oil temp, another oil temp, extra oil temp senders, oil pressure, voltmeter and maybe some I'm forgetting).

PC680MJT battery and bracket (new) with top mount terminals added.

3 quart high pressure accusump (brand new in the box)

Ground control weight jacks (front and rear, 1000 in lb front springs, 225 in lb rear)

Suspension techniques 35mm front sway bar with hardware

Factory 36mm hollow front sway bar

Steering column (gutted of all things that aren't needed) with a Grant steering wheel and a quick release hub.

Front control arms with energy suspension bushings.

Full set of 3rd gen Koni SA's

SFI window net

Window net hardware kit

Helmet Hook

Steering wheel hook

LCA's, PHB, Camber plates

Wink 4 panel mirror

Disk brake rear axle (aftermarket axles, eaton posi, 3.73 gears, aluminum support girdle, etc)

New Harwood lexan windshield.

SLP headers

"Shorty" exhaust (headers to a dump at the rear axle) with magnaflow race muffler.

Remote start solenoid

(2) 250 amp "contactors" (one was to disconnect the alternator, the other was to work as a remote master switch). Sold by Painless wiring.

60 amp breaker (water proof)

100 amp breaker (water proof)


I'm sure there's more...and I'll add it later (and try to sort out prices, I don't even know what the prices are for this stuff anymore, I've lost interest to the point that I've lost track of the prices of most of this stuff these days). Anyway, is there enough interest in this stuff to actually move enough of it to get this thing out of my garage? If anybody is interested in parts, speak up, we'll work out prices and see if I can sell enough to get rid of it all.
firehawkclone
Again!
1meanZ
heh, I have a Dana 44 C-beam, trailing arms, and a few other bits and pieces for a C4 that I didnt use in my Camaro, lets make a deal! LOL tongue.gif
trackbird
QUOTE (firehawkclone @ Nov 15 2010, 10:10 AM) *
Again!


Yup. One last time. I may find myself getting remarried soon and this car no longer fits into any of my plans. I've pretty well lost interest in it and wish I had a street car that I can enjoy on a regular basis. So, I figured I'd take one last shot at getting rid of it before it rots in my garage or gets dumped on craigs list or ebay. I'm starting to reach the point of just wanting it gone...again.
Mojave
QUOTE (trackbird @ Nov 15 2010, 09:55 AM) *
QUOTE (firehawkclone @ Nov 15 2010, 10:10 AM) *
Again!


Yup. One last time. I may find myself getting remarried soon and this car no longer fits into any of my plans. I've pretty well lost interest in it and wish I had a street car that I can enjoy on a regular basis. So, I figured I'd take one last shot at getting rid of it before it rots in my garage or gets dumped on craigs list or ebay. I'm starting to reach the point of just wanting it gone...again.


I don't mean to be an asshole (too much of one anyway), but didn't you sell your street car to get this one? ph34r.gif
mitchntx
QUOTE (trackbird @ Nov 15 2010, 09:55 AM) *
QUOTE (firehawkclone @ Nov 15 2010, 10:10 AM) *
Again!


Yup. One last time. I may find myself getting remarried soon and this car no longer fits into any of my plans. I've pretty well lost interest in it and wish I had a street car that I can enjoy on a regular basis. So, I figured I'd take one last shot at getting rid of it before it rots in my garage or gets dumped on craigs list or ebay. I'm starting to reach the point of just wanting it gone...again.


I don't mean to be an asshole, but didn't you just get single?
slowTA
I don't mean to be an asshole, but I sent you a PM with extremely low offers.
Mojave
QUOTE (mitchntx @ Nov 15 2010, 07:26 PM) *
I don't mean to be an asshole, but didn't you just get single?


QUOTE (slowTA @ Nov 15 2010, 08:14 PM) *
I don't mean to be an asshole, but I sent you a PM with extremely low offers.


Guys, quit being assholes in Kevin's thread, he's trying to sell a car here. rotf.gif beerchug.gif
trackbird
QUOTE (Mojave @ Nov 15 2010, 07:40 PM) *
I don't mean to be an asshole (too much of one anyway), but didn't you sell your street car to get this one? ph34r.gif


Yup, sure did. At the time I was married and had a budget to go racing and lord knows I wasn't really wanting to spend time at home with my wife...lol


QUOTE (mitchntx @ Nov 15 2010, 08:26 PM) *
I don't mean to be an asshole, but didn't you just get single?


It's been a few years now (believe it or not).


QUOTE (slowTA @ Nov 15 2010, 09:14 PM) *
I don't mean to be an asshole, but I sent you a PM with extremely low offers.


Yes you did....asshole. nutkick.gif


QUOTE (Mojave @ Nov 15 2010, 10:17 PM) *
Guys, quit being assholes in Kevin's thread, he's trying to sell a car here. rotf.gif beerchug.gif


I was just about to ask if you wanted a moderator job, then I realized you started this whole thing... (Ban 'em Mitch!) blink.gif lol
trackbird
I had an email about someone who might be interested in the whole car, or a large portion of it. I'd love to move it in one piece (mostly one piece?) so I'm going to see how that goes before I start pulling parts off.

Also, most everything listed is new, virtually new or "out of the box and bolted on a car that's never even been started" new.
firehawkclone
I have been thinking the samething Kevin, ditch the race car and by a c5 for TT weekends. But I'll just end up doing the samething to it.

Isn't the car pretty close to being done? It might be easier to sell if it's running.

Good luck with the sale bud. You know we got to rib ya a little.
1meanZ
QUOTE (slowTA @ Nov 15 2010, 09:14 PM) *
I don't mean to be an asshole, but I sent you a PM with extremely low offers.


LOL!!! That makes two of us! Now I don't feel so bad.... 2thumbs.gif This site has more assholes than a pack of hotdogs...
slowTA
QUOTE (trackbird @ Nov 15 2010, 10:54 PM) *
QUOTE (slowTA @ Nov 15 2010, 09:14 PM) *
I don't mean to be an asshole, but I sent you a PM with extremely low offers.


Yes you did....asshole. nutkick.gif


Hey, what's with the name-calling?
trackbird
QUOTE (firehawkclone @ Nov 16 2010, 12:46 AM) *
I have been thinking the samething Kevin, ditch the race car and by a c5 for TT weekends. But I'll just end up doing the samething to it.

Isn't the car pretty close to being done? It might be easier to sell if it's running.

Good luck with the sale bud. You know we got to rib ya a little.


Depends. If I'm buying a C4, it won't be running because I'm keeping the engine... If a deal goes through on the whole thing, then I'll go to plan B (C5?).
TPIJAY
damn Kevin. I hate to hear this but I guess it's for good reason. unsure.gif I'll PM you shortly with my wish list. Wish I was closer and wasn't so deep into my build, I'd have just bought yours. banghead.gif
trackbird
QUOTE (TPIJAY @ Nov 23 2010, 02:01 AM) *
damn Kevin. I hate to hear this but I guess it's for good reason. unsure.gif


Nah, it's not really for a good reason. I'm just bored and lazy. However, it appears that the only thing to do with this car right now is to get it running. The market is currently so soft on cars that I'd be better off lighting it on fire instead of selling it, I'd lose about the same amount of money either way. blink.gif

Guess I'm going to just have to keep it for now. dry.gif

I guess I could always cut out the cage and buy some doors and interior parts for it and pretend it's a street car 2thumbs.gif
Mojave
QUOTE (trackbird @ Dec 29 2010, 02:50 PM) *
Nah, it's not really for a good reason. I'm just bored and lazy. However, it appears that the only thing to do with this car right now is to get it running. The market is currently so soft on cars that I'd be better off lighting it on fire instead of selling it, I'd lose about the same amount of money either way. blink.gif

Guess I'm going to just have to keep it for now. dry.gif

I guess I could always cut out the cage and buy some doors and interior parts for it and pretend it's a street car 2thumbs.gif


You don't need door panels to pretend it's a street car. Get it going! smile.gif
trackbird
QUOTE (Mojave @ Dec 29 2010, 09:48 PM) *
QUOTE (trackbird @ Dec 29 2010, 02:50 PM) *

I guess I could always cut out the cage and buy some doors and interior parts for it and pretend it's a street car 2thumbs.gif


You don't need door panels to pretend it's a street car. Get it going! smile.gif


I just wanted windows so I could lock it....lol
GM01SS
Since this this tread has gone the ASSHOLE route....figured I could add nothing........................... But you may want to consider a nice 2001 Camaro SS 35k miles and fairly inexpensive...just saying!!!!!!!! Streetable with working a/c and radio. 440 rwhp!:) Oh and it has windows!
Doug Phillips
If you decide on a Camaro this one is a serious car. Very well prepped by Gateway and runs low 30s at Mosport.

http://timewarpracingcars.shutterfly.com/racecarsforsale/184
Blainefab
QUOTE (Doug Phillips @ Dec 30 2010, 05:36 AM) *
If you decide on a Camaro this one is a serious car. Very well prepped by Gateway and runs low 30s at Mosport.

http://timewarpracingcars.shutterfly.com/racecarsforsale/184


So, builders/tech inspectors - from these pics, how many CCR violations can you spot in this car?

Probably still a nice car, most of what I'm seeing could be fixed in a day.
Doug Phillips
Excuse my ignorance but what is a CCR violation? Is it a tech requirement not being met?
ReEntryRacer
QUOTE (Doug Phillips @ Dec 30 2010, 10:25 PM) *
Excuse my ignorance but what is a CCR violation? Is it a tech requirement not being met?


Same as GCRs in CACC in Canada I think.
Blainefab
QUOTE (Doug Phillips @ Dec 30 2010, 10:25 PM) *
Excuse my ignorance but what is a CCR violation? Is it a tech requirement not being met?


Yes, NASA CCR = SCCA GCR
Doug Phillips
Ok, So what are the violations?
nape
-Main hoop back stays at too acute angles
-Roll bar padding by driver's head is wrong type.
-Fire system pull likely out of reach by driver while strapped in.

And I'm gone for New Years.
Blainefab
QUOTE (nape @ Dec 31 2010, 05:03 PM) *
-Main hoop back stays at too acute angles
-Roll bar padding by driver's head is wrong type.
-Fire system pull likely out of reach by driver while strapped in.

And I'm gone for New Years.


I spotted 7 items, but, missed the fire pull location, so 8

My list:
too soft padding
cutoff switch terminals exposed
harness wrap wrong - check 3bar adjusters on pass side
I don't see a back brace on the seat
fuel cell vent plumbing exposed
backstay angle possibly wrong, needs to be measured. If angle is OK then there is the problem of where they land - no structure there.
sharp corner of switch panel pointing at drivers knee.
and a good catch by TJ on the fire pull location
Sidney
Why not drop a stock LT1 in it and run CMC2?

Sell the hood and lexan windshield. Tack weld the weight jackers and you're legal.

Kent Owen's has a good motor for $1,500 for sale.


Sidney
CMC2 #64
trackbird
QUOTE (Sidney @ Jan 4 2011, 02:16 PM) *
Why not drop a stock LT1 in it and run CMC2?

Sell the hood and lexan windshield. Tack weld the weight jackers and you're legal.

Kent Owen's has a good motor for $1,500 for sale.


Sidney
CMC2 #64


Interesting idea but the cage goes through the firewall (and there is no factory dash, and I think the C4HD brakes are illegal too). And I vowed to avoid an opti spark equipped engine at all costs in anything...ever. smile.gif

Sadly the dash rule makes this an AIX car that's light on power. But we'll sort that out later I guess... smile.gif
Blainefab
QUOTE (trackbird @ Jan 4 2011, 12:04 PM) *
Sadly the dash rule makes this an AIX car that's light on power. But we'll sort that out later I guess... smile.gif


Fabbing a dash would be trivial compared to the effort you have invested so far - wrap it up and target AI.
trackbird
QUOTE (Blainefab @ Jan 4 2011, 03:41 PM) *
QUOTE (trackbird @ Jan 4 2011, 12:04 PM) *
Sadly the dash rule makes this an AIX car that's light on power. But we'll sort that out later I guess... smile.gif


Fabbing a dash would be trivial compared to the effort you have invested so far - wrap it up and target AI.


Thanks Alan. Some days I forget the effort expended so far (since I basically quit). You have a good point.
Sidney
QUOTE (trackbird @ Jan 4 2011, 02:04 PM) *
QUOTE (Sidney @ Jan 4 2011, 02:16 PM) *
Why not drop a stock LT1 in it and run CMC2?

Sell the hood and lexan windshield. Tack weld the weight jackers and you're legal.

Kent Owen's has a good motor for $1,500 for sale.


Sidney
CMC2 #64


Interesting idea but the cage goes through the firewall (and there is no factory dash, and I think the C4HD brakes are illegal too). And I vowed to avoid an opti spark equipped engine at all costs in anything...ever. smile.gif

Sadly the dash rule makes this an AIX car that's light on power. But we'll sort that out later I guess... smile.gif


Cut the cage, cut a stock dash to fit, Brakes are legal in CMC2, use a 350 with a carb...it's that simple!

Sidney
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