[BumpaD_Z28]

So in looking at replacement trucks for my '98 rcsb ... I do get a little excited about the SS Silverado's

Specifically 6.0 liters, and AWD (winter "capable" needed here in UT)

Has anyone owned one or have any experiences ?

I heard they don't get to good of mileage, but that's not too huge of a concern, as I don't put too many miles on my truck.

Any input appreciated (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

(IMG:http://x-img.autorevo.com/2005-chevrolet-silverado-ss-indio-ca-6090201/1619797-1-bigger.jpg)

~DaVe

[trackbird]

I rebuilt an LS2 out of a Trailblazer SS a couple years ago. I'm guessing the drivetrain is similar in this, but I don't know if it has a front sump oil pan like the TBSS did? I'm guessing it doesn't since these trucks came in 4WD trim and I don't believe they used a front sump pan. If they do, I'd run away. The TBSS are known for starving for oil during hard launches. That's ultimately what munched the engine that I rebuilt. It spun a bearing.

[BumpaD_Z28]

I rebuilt an LS2 out of a Trailblazer SS a couple years ago. I'm guessing the drivetrain is similar in this, but I don't know if it has a front sump oil pan like the TBSS did? I'm guessing it doesn't since these trucks came in 4WD trim and I don't believe they used a front sump pan. If they do, I'd run away. The TBSS are known for starving for oil during hard launches. That's ultimately what munched the engine that I rebuilt. It spun a bearing.

They are the older LQ9

[trackbird]

I rebuilt an LS2 out of a Trailblazer SS a couple years ago. I'm guessing the drivetrain is similar in this, but I don't know if it has a front sump oil pan like the TBSS did? I'm guessing it doesn't since these trucks came in 4WD trim and I don't believe they used a front sump pan. If they do, I'd run away. The TBSS are known for starving for oil during hard launches. That's ultimately what munched the engine that I rebuilt. It spun a bearing.

They are the older LQ9

Ah, I had a 6 liter in my 2007 C3500. It was thirsty and they "neutered" 1st gear (it would only spin the tires if the roads were really wet). But it was a solid truck and towed all kinds of stuff all over the place for me. Mileage wasn't great in my truck (8-12 average with a best ever of 14.007 on the freeway...calculated as I filled up). And mine required premium or it would knock (even unloaded when climbing hills).

[GCrites80s]

This era of GM LS truck is notorious for overzealous torque management in the ECM.

[CrashTestDummy]

This era of GM LS truck is notorious for overzealous torque management in the ECM.

Heh, yep! You catch yourself 'leaning forward' a bit in anticipation of accelerating off a stop, when the truck doesn't roll out as you'd expect it. It's a weird, but definite feeling. Luckily, most of that can be tuned out, which makes for a MUCH more fun vehicle!!

[trackbird]

This era of GM LS truck is notorious for overzealous torque management in the ECM.

It's drive by wire so they just minimize the available throttle opening. You just can't have full throttle, or not quickly.

[GCrites80s]

Now I'm wondering if dialing back TQ management actually raises gas mileage. It would probably help the city more than the highway if so.

[trackbird]

Now I'm wondering if dialing back TQ management actually raises gas mileage. It would probably help the city more than the highway if so.

Many of the torque management systems pull timing (as I understand it). If you're pulling timing to artificially limit power, you're likely wasting fuel mileage. I don't know if they have any tricks to offset that, but usually running an engine with the timing retarded doesn't do anything good for efficiency.

[BumpaD_Z28]

This era of GM LS truck is notorious for overzealous torque management in the ECM.

Heh, yep! You catch yourself 'leaning forward' a bit in anticipation of accelerating off a stop, when the truck doesn't roll out as you'd expect it. It's a weird, but definite feeling. Luckily, most of that can be tuned out, which makes for a MUCH more fun vehicle!!

This era of GM LS truck is notorious for overzealous torque management in the ECM.

It's drive by wire so they just minimize the available throttle opening. You just can't have full throttle, or not quickly.

So it sounds like the torque management could easily be tuned out with HP Tuners ? ..> I don't want to blow up AWD transfer cases or the 4L65E, BUT it would be nice for the the 6.0 to move "a little" ?

~DaVe

[GCrites80s]

People were used to just letting their teens borrow their pickups like it was a 165hp '83 F-150 with an open diff and 215/80/15s or something. You can't do that with LS or it's going to come back broken without TQ MGT!

[dojob]

Good trucks

My brother enjoyed his
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGpdGo4SLQo

[BumpaD_Z28]

I missed out on a Silver 2005 (what I'm really after) on Autotrader (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

This one is pretty close to me ! ...

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/ve...=true&Log=0

Just don't know if I can handle more black vehicles (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

~DaVe

[Steve91T]

Good trucks

My brother enjoyed his
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGpdGo4SLQo

That's awesome! That's a ton of torque.

[BumpaD_Z28]

Well I found another 2005 AWD Silver Birch metallic SS w/ 85k miles ! ... the 30ish hour round trip drive (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) to go get it starts tomorrow afternoon.

I hope it's a good truck, I had planned on driving my current '98 rcsb into the ground but now I can atleast sell it for something.

~DaVe

[trackbird]

Very cool. 30 hours? I did 10-12 hours to get the Camaro....30 is a haul.

I'm anxious to see how you like it once it's home. Have a safe trip!

[dojob]

Very cool. 30 hours? I did 10-12 hours to get the Camaro....30 is a haul.

I'm anxious to see how you like it once it's home. Have a safe trip!

That's nuts. I did 3 hrs/220 mi each way last week to get my wifes new crv.... that was enough for me. haha

[Mojave]

Well I found another 2005 AWD Silver Birch metallic SS w/ 85k miles ! ... the 30ish hour round trip drive (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) to go get it starts tomorrow afternoon.

I hope it's a good truck, I had planned on driving my current '98 rcsb into the ground but now I can atleast sell it for something.

~DaVe

Very cool. 30 hours? I did 10-12 hours to get the Camaro....30 is a haul.

I'm anxious to see how you like it once it's home. Have a safe trip!

30 hours round trip? Come on guys, those aren't real road trips. Last year two buddies and I went from San Antonio to Tacoma for a nice square body Chevy crew cab. 5256 miles in 5 days. That was a proper go pickup a car road trip.

[Steve91T]

Holy crap man! Why don't you just have it shipped? It can't cost much more than what you're going to spend on gas, food, hotels and beer (once you're in the hotel).

[BumpaD_Z28]

Holy crap man! Why don't you just have it shipped? It can't cost much more than what you're going to spend on gas, food, hotels and beer (once you're in the hotel).

Nope rental was ~89 + ~40 in gas ... no hotel or beer 30+ hours straight ... gas back was the most expensive part ~130

... and the truck has issues ! I'm not happy (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) but lately that's been par. Ugh