 Offset upper control arm bushings, DONE and for sale |
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 Jul 23 2006, 08:29 PM
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Advanced Member  Group: Advanced Members Posts: 404 Joined: 12-January 04 From: From PA, now AR Member No.: 120  |
Bushings are installed. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I'll reset the toe and get it on the road later this week. |
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Jul 27 2006, 10:32 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,441 Joined: 30-December 03 Member No.: 76 |
Rich Johnston, John Spooner, Sean Garnett..... bushings are packed and on the way. Thanks!
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Jul 28 2006, 08:38 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 438 Joined: 1-January 04 From: BOS Member No.: 85 |
QUOTE (Racer X @ Jul 23 2006, 02:29 PM)  Bushings are installed. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I'll reset the toe and get it on the road later this week. Thanks Sam, RacerX, Got any install pointers for the rest of the crowd? Thanks, -John |
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Jul 28 2006, 09:30 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 404 Joined: 12-January 04 From: From PA, now AR Member No.: 120 |
QUOTE (Spooner @ Jul 28 2006, 03:38 PM) RacerX, Got any install pointers for the rest of the crowd? Thanks, -John Not really, they went together pretty easily. Just drill your set screw holes straighter than I did so nobody will accuse you of being A ) cross-eyed or B ) drunk. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Per side it was something like.... 15 minutes to get the arm out What felt like 2 flippin hours to burn out the old bushings and clean up the shells. 10 minutes to press in the bushings 10 minutes to install the set screws (need a 10-32 tap but screws are included) 15 minutes to button everything back up There are some pretty good directions included if you've never tackled anything like this before. I installed mine with a loaner ball joint tool from O'Reilly. A bench vise would probably work but I have no bench and no vise. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) |
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Jul 29 2006, 12:03 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 438 Joined: 1-January 04 From: BOS Member No.: 85 |
QUOTE (Racer X @ Jul 28 2006, 03:30 PM) QUOTE (Spooner @ Jul 28 2006, 03:38 PM) RacerX, Got any install pointers for the rest of the crowd? Thanks, -John Not really, they went together pretty easily. Just drill your set screw holes straighter than I did so nobody will accuse you of being A ) cross-eyed or B ) drunk. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Per side it was something like.... 15 minutes to get the arm out What felt like 2 flippin hours to burn out the old bushings and clean up the shells. 10 minutes to press in the bushings 10 minutes to install the set screws (need a 10-32 tap but screws are included) 15 minutes to button everything back up There are some pretty good directions included if you've never tackled anything like this before. I installed mine with a loaner ball joint tool from O'Reilly. A bench vise would probably work but I have no bench and no vise. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Thanks for the pointers. What kind of torch did you use? I have a basic one. I don't know what kind of gas it uses. Then again, I don't know if that really matters? -John |
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Jul 29 2006, 12:52 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 404 Joined: 12-January 04 From: From PA, now AR Member No.: 120 |
Just your basic Home Depot propane plumbers torch.
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Jul 29 2006, 01:23 AM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,640 Joined: 25-December 03 From: Louisville, KY Member No.: 40 |
QUOTE (Racer X @ Jul 28 2006, 05:30 PM) What felt like 2 flippin hours to burn out the old bushings and clean up the shells. Use Mapp gas and a screw driver and it won't take but a few minutes to get it clean. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) How much camber did you gain? |
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Jul 29 2006, 02:33 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 404 Joined: 12-January 04 From: From PA, now AR Member No.: 120 |
QUOTE (robz71lm7 @ Jul 28 2006, 08:23 PM) Use Mapp gas and a screw driver and it won't take but a few minutes to get it clean. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) How much camber did you gain? Yeah well, cheap and slow can also describe the car so it was the only logical path for me. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Camber... hard to say, I don't have a way to check camber / caster here at home yet. However, the increase is readily apparent to even the untrained eye (read - my wife). I'd have to say it's at least equal to the advertised 0.5° |
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Aug 2 2006, 01:26 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 438 Joined: 1-January 04 From: BOS Member No.: 85 |
Thanks for the pointers. Just one more question... I'm a little confused on where to drill and tap the hole. The written part of the directions say, to me anyway, to do it through the side of the bushing. But the figure seems to suggest doing it through the face of the bushing as it's flange is facing you...
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Aug 2 2006, 07:39 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,441 Joined: 30-December 03 Member No.: 76 |
The instruction say "drill and tap a 10-32 hole through the outer metal casing into the bushing...". The screw is to keep the bushing from turning relative to the metal sleeve. Not to mention that a screw sticking out of an end wouldn't let you put the a-arm back together. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Aug 4 2006, 05:38 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,441 Joined: 30-December 03 Member No.: 76 |
5 sets left........
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Aug 4 2006, 06:14 PM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,647 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Pittsburgh, PA Member No.: 14 |
I was able to beat the old bushings out with a socket and hammer instead of burning it. Then again, they were poly bushings that were installed less than 2 years ago...
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Aug 21 2006, 02:45 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,441 Joined: 30-December 03 Member No.: 76 |
I've got 4 sets left...... Things have slowed down considerably (and I knew they would) being these are first and foremost build to satisfy rules.
However, I know there are a few of you out there yet who could use them (and at least one or two I actually had in mind when I decided to build these) who didn't get any yet. Here's why I metion that. I most likely will *not* do another run of these. The market is pretty small and going to be pretty much saturated. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) If you want some it's time. |
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Aug 21 2006, 03:47 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 438 Joined: 1-January 04 From: BOS Member No.: 85 |
Burning the bushing out: Do you want to burn it right down to bare metal? Or can there be a little bit of leftover residue? I suppose the answer is yes, bare metal.
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Aug 21 2006, 04:28 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,427 Joined: 12-February 04 From: Huntingtown, MD Member No.: 193 |
You need to get all the rubber out. You can burn all of it out or burn most of it and knock off the last little bit with a wire brush.
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Aug 21 2006, 08:18 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 438 Joined: 1-January 04 From: BOS Member No.: 85 |
QUOTE (pknowles @ Aug 21 2006, 10:28 AM) You need to get all the rubber out. You can burn all of it out or burn most of it and knock off the last little bit with a wire brush. Thanks Phil... -John |
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Aug 21 2006, 11:30 PM
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Seeking round tuits Group: Advanced Members Posts: 5,522 Joined: 24-December 03 From: Kentucky Member No.: 33 |
I have not installed my UCA bushings yet, but for removing the LCA bushing rubber I found it worked better to heat the outside of the bushing shell until smoke started squirting out at the edge of the rubber (more than just a lazy wisp) and then the rubber would just slide out.
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Aug 21 2006, 11:51 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 404 Joined: 12-January 04 From: From PA, now AR Member No.: 120 |
I finally got to run my first event since these were installed.
It's amazing what 0.5° of camber can do for a car...... |
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Aug 23 2006, 08:05 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,441 Joined: 30-December 03 Member No.: 76 |
I'd like to move the remaining sets. They are overhead, and while I know they will sell to someone eventually, I'd really like them to go to the intended folks. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Oct 2 2006, 01:11 PM
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Veteran Member Group: Member Posts: 2,688 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Ft Worth, TX Member No.: 8 |
Sam, i've been mulling this over and i think i would like a set for the CMC car.
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