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> Offset upper control arm bushings, DONE and for sale
firehawkclone
post Oct 2 2006, 02:40 PM
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Last set sold (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I hope.....
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Sam Strano
post Oct 2 2006, 04:33 PM
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Wheeler got the last set......

From here I need to get confirmed orders to make another run as I know the market is getting saturated and don't want to end up sitting on a bunch of them.
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post Oct 2 2006, 11:13 PM
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Thank you Sam!

Once again you came through!

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post Oct 8 2006, 03:02 PM
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Just an fyi

With a slotted k-member and these upper bushing, I can get almost 3 on camber and 4.5 on caster! maxed!

Mine is set at 1.8 and 6.2 with a ride height F 6" R 6 3/16"

I'm sure Sam will make another batch if need be (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Sam Strano
post Oct 9 2006, 08:18 PM
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And I'd be happy to have more made for you guys. But wishing upon a star isn't going to cut it. I need confirmed orders this time!
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Sam Strano
post Oct 17 2006, 05:29 PM
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Bringing this back to the top because I have two confirmed orders for more. I'm not making more until I have 10 solid orders. So we need 8 more to get something rolling on another batch.
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post Oct 27 2006, 06:56 PM
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***SOLD*** , thanks. Disregard below.

I have a brand new set of these for sale. I bought the set from Sam about 2 months ago, but when I took my upper control arms off I discovered that the car already had a set of offset bushings installed, (probably from Global West).

First $175 takes them. No need to wait for the next batch to be made, mine are available now.
Buyer pays UPS ground shipping.

send email to briandoll at comcast dot net


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Sam Strano
post Oct 27 2006, 07:11 PM
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Are you sure the bushings you have are legal? There was some talk about some prior offset bushings having too much metal content vs. OE. I don't know if it's true, but some folks have been caught cheating before. I'd hate to see you get screwed if that was the case. And no, pleading ignorance is not a defense or we might well have had a different winner in STS @ Nationals. There were things on his car he didn't know were wrong, and got tossed for them.

I sold them already, no skin off my nose if you want to sell them. You just might want to hang on to them until you know you have something legal for sure. Just a thought
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post Oct 27 2006, 08:17 PM
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QUOTE (Sam Strano @ Oct 27 2006, 01:11 PM) *
Are you sure the bushings you have are legal? There was some talk about some prior offset bushings having too much metal content vs. OE. I don't know if it's true, but some folks have been caught cheating before. I'd hate to see you get screwed if that was the case. And no, pleading ignorance is not a defense or we might well have had a different winner in STS @ Nationals. There were things on his car he didn't know were wrong, and got tossed for them.

I sold them already, no skin off my nose if you want to sell them. You just might want to hang on to them until you know you have something legal for sure. Just a thought


Hi Sam,

My car is an American Sedan, pertinent rules are in GCR 17.1.7.D.4.d
The global west bushings are legal per this ruleset (the way I interpret them...)
How are the autocross rules worded?

The bushings you make are nice. I just made a mistake and didn't realize the car I bought already had offset bushings installed.

Excerpts from the gcr:

The gcr is at http://www.scca.org/_FileLibrary/File/GCR2006.pdf

17.1.7.D.4.d.2. On other forms of suspension, camber adjustments
may be achieved by the use of shims and/or eccentric
bushings. Rear camber shall be no more than 1/2 degree
negative per side.

17.1.7.D.4.d.5. Bushing material is unrestricted except that control
arm to spindle ball joints must be stock or equivalent
replacement. Original unmodified control arms must be
retained.
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post Oct 27 2006, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE (briandoll @ Oct 27 2006, 04:17 PM) *
How are the autocross rules worded?


In ESP, they can have no more metallic content that the stock bushings they replace, they may be pinned (to prevent rotation of the offset) but the pin may serve no other purpose, and if the stock bushing uses compliance to allow movement (as both of the lower control arm bushings on a 4th gen do, but especially the caster bushing) then the replacement must also (so a spherical delrin caster bushing is illegal, even if it doesn't shatter).
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post Oct 30 2006, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE (briandoll @ Oct 27 2006, 03:17 PM) *
QUOTE (Sam Strano @ Oct 27 2006, 01:11 PM) *

Are you sure the bushings you have are legal? There was some talk about some prior offset bushings having too much metal content vs. OE. I don't know if it's true, but some folks have been caught cheating before. I'd hate to see you get screwed if that was the case. And no, pleading ignorance is not a defense or we might well have had a different winner in STS @ Nationals. There were things on his car he didn't know were wrong, and got tossed for them.

I sold them already, no skin off my nose if you want to sell them. You just might want to hang on to them until you know you have something legal for sure. Just a thought


Hi Sam,

My car is an American Sedan, pertinent rules are in GCR 17.1.7.D.4.d
The global west bushings are legal per this ruleset (the way I interpret them...)
How are the autocross rules worded?

The bushings you make are nice. I just made a mistake and didn't realize the car I bought already had offset bushings installed.

Excerpts from the gcr:

The gcr is at http://www.scca.org/_FileLibrary/File/GCR2006.pdf

17.1.7.D.4.d.2. On other forms of suspension, camber adjustments
may be achieved by the use of shims and/or eccentric
bushings. Rear camber shall be no more than 1/2 degree
negative per side.

17.1.7.D.4.d.5. Bushing material is unrestricted except that control
arm to spindle ball joints must be stock or equivalent
replacement. Original unmodified control arms must be
retained.



Probably legal in your case, but I don't have a GCR.. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Sam Strano
post Nov 15 2006, 06:49 PM
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Getting close.... need about 3 more orders for the next run to be made.
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post Nov 15 2006, 10:04 PM
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Just want to make sure in case I'm wrong, I'm on the list already right?
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post Nov 15 2006, 10:36 PM
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yep.
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post Nov 15 2006, 11:26 PM
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Saaaweet.. I'm counting down the days (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/burnout.gif)
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post Nov 16 2006, 12:13 PM
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I'll take a spare set to stash away. You can put me on the bottom of the list when you start mailing them out (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Nov 16 2006, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE (sgarnett @ Nov 16 2006, 07:13 AM) *
I'll take a spare set to stash away. You can put me on the bottom of the list when you start mailing them out (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Umm... ok. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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Sam Strano
post Nov 28 2006, 05:51 PM
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I've got 7 confirmed orders on these... and some folks need them sooner than later. I need just a few more to make this run happen. It will be a smaller run, no way am I making 20 car set like I did last time considering I'm having trouble getting 10 folks to go now. Normally, I'd just bag it, but those who need them are serious competitors and HAVE to have the bushings, so I'm doing what I can to help them out.

I want to get this ball rolling, so if you have a need for a little more negative camber and either can't run aftermarket a-arms due to rules, *OR* don't want to drag the extra weight of them around, now is the time to act.
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post Nov 29 2006, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE (Sam Strano @ Nov 28 2006, 01:51 PM) *
I've got 7 confirmed orders on these... and some folks need them sooner than later. I need just a few more to make this run happen. It will be a smaller run, no way am I making 20 car set like I did last time considering I'm having trouble getting 10 folks to go now. Normally, I'd just bag it, but those who need them are serious competitors and HAVE to have the bushings, so I'm doing what I can to help them out.

I want to get this ball rolling, so if you have a need for a little more negative camber and either can't run aftermarket a-arms due to rules, *OR* don't want to drag the extra weight of them around, now is the time to act.



Count me in.

Not as much camber as with my control arms but I might have to take these off next year.
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post Nov 29 2006, 05:32 PM
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Ok, I think we're really close to getting this going.
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