Phase Converters - Making a 3 phase lathe work at home shop |
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Phase Converters - Making a 3 phase lathe work at home shop |
Nov 12 2014, 02:28 AM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 3,323 Joined: 30-March 06 From: Detroit Suburbs Member No.: 1,144 |
I have a chance at getting an old lathe from work for a good price but it needs 3 phase power. Below is the tag on the machine:
(IMG:http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o33/StanIROCZ/Garage/50075BD2-2F97-49DD-977F-83140E50730F_zpsgdwwgyp0.jpg) I've read this article on Making Three Phase Machines Work in a Single Phase Shop It sounds like I have 3 options for phase converters, a static converter being the lowest cost option. Problem with it is in cuts the power in 1/3 and needs to be sized properly for the motor it runs. Not sure if this would work for me or not. Not sure on exact cost of the lathe but I'm figuring around $3-500. It's not a great machine but is good enough for making spacers and other odds and ends. It is manual (no CNC), the 3 jaw isn't true, the tool holder base has some stripped threads that make it hard to get it locked down rigid etc. There are some odds and ends tools that come with it (ball bearing tail stock, 4 jaw, etc and quite a few other things that I'll probably never use). Size is around 36" not sure on the throw. So given the cost of the machine and its condition I don't want to sink a ton of money into correcting the phase. Looking for guidance from anyone who might have been through this before. |
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Nov 12 2014, 02:44 AM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 3,323 Joined: 30-March 06 From: Detroit Suburbs Member No.: 1,144 |
Is this what I need?
http://www.wnysupply.com/index.cfm/fa/item...tid/0/id/336301 if so no sweat spending $46 |
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Nov 12 2014, 06:14 AM
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Full NVH Group: Moderators Posts: 444 Joined: 16-July 07 From: Grove City, Ohio Member No.: 1,854 |
The guy that used to play drums in our band is a commercial electrician, I'll call him and find out.
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Nov 12 2014, 07:28 AM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 3,323 Joined: 30-March 06 From: Detroit Suburbs Member No.: 1,144 |
Let me know what he has to say. My father in law was an industrial electrician and ran lots of wire but never needed to convert a machine.
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Nov 12 2014, 02:31 PM
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Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 63 Joined: 9-July 13 From: Hutchinson, KS Member No.: 223,763 |
From your description this doesn't sound like a very big lathe. Is it belt drive? It might be cheaper to just buy a new motor.
Might have to do some rewiring on the switch. Jack |
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Nov 12 2014, 02:35 PM
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Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 144 Joined: 3-June 14 From: Cape May County, NJ Member No.: 223,818 |
I have a phase converter for my lathe.
I've had it for about 15 years, I think I paid about $2200 for it back then. So swapping the motor might be a better deal for you. Good luck Craig |
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Nov 12 2014, 02:57 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 262 Joined: 24-November 08 Member No.: 3,162 |
I agree. A new motor will likely be cheaper and run more efficient. Phase convertors can be finicky, and inefficient. A new motor and rewiring will get you going. Then sell your 3 phase motor to recoup a couple bucks.
How many HP is the motor? A quality, brand new 1 HP single phase motor is about $100 to $150. You can find them used very cheap. This post has been edited by DAlgozine: Nov 12 2014, 02:59 PM |
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Nov 12 2014, 03:01 PM
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Full NVH Group: Moderators Posts: 444 Joined: 16-July 07 From: Grove City, Ohio Member No.: 1,854 |
Wil just told me the same thing. Swap the motor.....
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Nov 13 2014, 01:35 AM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 3,323 Joined: 30-March 06 From: Detroit Suburbs Member No.: 1,144 |
1.9 kW is 2.5 HP. I need to take another look at it to see the motor. I cant remember the name brand of the lathe but i remember it being from Brazil which seems kinda strange for its age. Hopefully it will take a universal motor.
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